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		<title>By: Links &#171; I Think ^(Link)&#8230;&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/09/checklist-review/comment-page-2/#comment-12082</link>
		<dc:creator>Links &#171; I Think ^(Link)&#8230;&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don&#8217;t forget to read Keith Hennessey too. The go to guy in Healthcare coverage. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. The funniest [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;12082&#039;,&#039;Links &laquo; I Think ^(Link)&#8230;&#8230;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;12082&#039;,&#039;Links &laquo; I Think ^(Link)&#8230;&#8230;&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; don&#8217;t forget to read Keith Hennessey too. The go to guy in Healthcare coverage. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. The funniest &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] don&#8217;t forget to read Keith Hennessey too. The go to guy in Healthcare coverage. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. The funniest [...]
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		<title>By: Kevin Mc</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/09/checklist-review/comment-page-1/#comment-11989</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lewin Group&#039;s publication is based on numbers that aren&#039;t valid anymore.  For example, they assume that the public option will use the same Medicare reimbursement rate.  The numbers I&#039;ve read are about 20-30% higher.  This would greatly effect the number of people that would go to the plan.  Another issue is with the Americans that are eligible to buy in to the plan.  Is it open to everyone or just open to small businesses and individuals? This greatly effects enrollment. 
 
My point here is that there are ways to ensure there is no government takeover of health care.  It&#039;s possible to make the public option work but Republicans have shown that they are unwilling to discuss ways to do this by screaming &#039;government takeover&#039; every chance they get. &lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;11989&#039;,&#039;Kevin Mc&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;11989&#039;,&#039;Kevin Mc&#039;,&#039;The Lewin Group&#039;s publication is based on numbers that aren&#039;t valid anymore.  For example, they assume that the public option will use the same Medicare reimbursement rate.  The numbers I&#039;ve read are about 20-30% higher.  This would greatly effect the number of people that would go to the plan.  Another issue is with the Americans that are eligible to buy in to the plan.  Is it open to everyone or just open to small businesses and individuals? This greatly effects enrollment. \n \nMy point here is that there are ways to ensure there is no government takeover of health care.  It&#039;s possible to make the public option work but Republicans have shown that they are unwilling to discuss ways to do this by screaming &#039;government takeover&#039; every chance they get. &#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lewin Group&#039;s publication is based on numbers that aren&#039;t valid anymore.  For example, they assume that the public option will use the same Medicare reimbursement rate.  The numbers I&#039;ve read are about 20-30% higher.  This would greatly effect the number of people that would go to the plan.  Another issue is with the Americans that are eligible to buy in to the plan.  Is it open to everyone or just open to small businesses and individuals? This greatly effects enrollment. </p>
<p>My point here is that there are ways to ensure there is no government takeover of health care.  It&#039;s possible to make the public option work but Republicans have shown that they are unwilling to discuss ways to do this by screaming &#039;government takeover&#039; every chance they get.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11989','Kevin Mc'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11989','Kevin Mc','The Lewin Group&amp;#039;s publication is based on numbers that aren&amp;#039;t valid anymore.  For example, they assume that the public option will use the same Medicare reimbursement rate.  The numbers I&amp;#039;ve read are about 20-30% higher.  This would greatly effect the number of people that would go to the plan.  Another issue is with the Americans that are eligible to buy in to the plan.  Is it open to everyone or just open to small businesses and individuals? This greatly effects enrollment. \n \nMy point here is that there are ways to ensure there is no government takeover of health care.  It&amp;#039;s possible to make the public option work but Republicans have shown that they are unwilling to discuss ways to do this by screaming &amp;#039;government takeover&amp;#039; every chance they get. '); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mc</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/09/checklist-review/comment-page-1/#comment-11988</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did read his checklist.  I just disagree with many of Keith&#039;s (and your) statements.   &lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;11988&#039;,&#039;Kevin Mc&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;11988&#039;,&#039;Kevin Mc&#039;,&#039;I did read his checklist.  I just disagree with many of Keith&#039;s (and your) statements.   &#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did read his checklist.  I just disagree with many of Keith&#039;s (and your) statements.
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		<title>By: Andrew_M_Garland</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/09/checklist-review/comment-page-2/#comment-11985</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew_M_Garland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope people of all parties and positions could agree that this is fundamental. It is non-partisan to demand that the President and all politicians show how they have carefully researched their proposals. 
 
No company can run without books of account. No government can write legislation without a plan in the background. The plan is there. Let&#039;s see Obama&#039;s written plan. Then, he can talk about it. 
 
The Congress and Obama should proudly present their careful research that supports their proposed rearrangement of healthcare. Obama is a Harvard trained lawyer. He should be up to it. 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://easyopinionsoutlink.blogspot.com/2009/07/few-words-about-policy.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Where is the policy paper, Obama&#039;s research on healthcare reform?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;11985&#039;,&#039;Andrew_M_Garland&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;11985&#039;,&#039;Andrew_M_Garland&#039;,&#039;I hope people of all parties and positions could agree that this is fundamental. It is non-partisan to demand that the President and all politicians show how they have carefully researched their proposals. \n \nNo company can run without books of account. No government can write legislation without a plan in the background. The plan is there. Let&#039;s see Obama&#039;s written plan. Then, he can talk about it. \n \nThe Congress and Obama should proudly present their careful research that supports their proposed rearrangement of healthcare. Obama is a Harvard trained lawyer. He should be up to it. \n \n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/easyopinionsoutlink.blogspot.com\/2009\/07\/few-words-about-policy.html\&quot; target=\&quot;_blank\&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Where is the policy paper, Obama&#039;s research on healthcare reform?&lt;\/b&gt;&lt;\/a&gt; &#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope people of all parties and positions could agree that this is fundamental. It is non-partisan to demand that the President and all politicians show how they have carefully researched their proposals. </p>
<p>No company can run without books of account. No government can write legislation without a plan in the background. The plan is there. Let&#039;s see Obama&#039;s written plan. Then, he can talk about it. </p>
<p>The Congress and Obama should proudly present their careful research that supports their proposed rearrangement of healthcare. Obama is a Harvard trained lawyer. He should be up to it. </p>
<p><a href="http://easyopinionsoutlink.blogspot.com/2009/07/few-words-about-policy.html" target="_blank"><b>Where is the policy paper, Obama&#039;s research on healthcare reform?</b></a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11985','Andrew_M_Garland'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11985','Andrew_M_Garland','I hope people of all parties and positions could agree that this is fundamental. It is non-partisan to demand that the President and all politicians show how they have carefully researched their proposals. \n \nNo company can run without books of account. No government can write legislation without a plan in the background. The plan is there. Let&amp;#039;s see Obama&amp;#039;s written plan. Then, he can talk about it. \n \nThe Congress and Obama should proudly present their careful research that supports their proposed rearrangement of healthcare. Obama is a Harvard trained lawyer. He should be up to it. \n \n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/easyopinionsoutlink.blogspot.com\/2009\/07\/few-words-about-policy.html\&quot; target=\&quot;_blank\&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Where is the policy paper, Obama&amp;#039;s research on healthcare reform?&lt;\/b&gt;&lt;\/a&gt; '); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Andrew_M_Garland</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/09/checklist-review/comment-page-2/#comment-11984</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew_M_Garland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A speech by Obama on his &lt;i&gt;healthcare vision&lt;/i&gt; is completely inadequate. These are merely desires, slogans, and goals. We need good medical care, affordable for everyone, with caring doctors, served by super-regulated insurance companies, and a chicken in every pot. Nice wishes, as if wishing would make it so. 
 
The government demands detailed, researched Environmental Impact Statements before starting a building. We should have Official Policy Impact Statements before our representatives change our society. 
 
We need proposed results, expected evolution, methods, justifications, comparative studies, past successes of similar policy, funding sources, expected difficulties, the works. What has worked, not what might work. 
(continued below) 
 &lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;11984&#039;,&#039;Andrew_M_Garland&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;11984&#039;,&#039;Andrew_M_Garland&#039;,&#039;A speech by Obama on his &lt;i&gt;healthcare vision&lt;\/i&gt; is completely inadequate. These are merely desires, slogans, and goals. We need good medical care, affordable for everyone, with caring doctors, served by super-regulated insurance companies, and a chicken in every pot. Nice wishes, as if wishing would make it so. \n \nThe government demands detailed, researched Environmental Impact Statements before starting a building. We should have Official Policy Impact Statements before our representatives change our society. \n \nWe need proposed results, expected evolution, methods, justifications, comparative studies, past successes of similar policy, funding sources, expected difficulties, the works. What has worked, not what might work. \n(continued below) \n &#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A speech by Obama on his <i>healthcare vision</i> is completely inadequate. These are merely desires, slogans, and goals. We need good medical care, affordable for everyone, with caring doctors, served by super-regulated insurance companies, and a chicken in every pot. Nice wishes, as if wishing would make it so. </p>
<p>The government demands detailed, researched Environmental Impact Statements before starting a building. We should have Official Policy Impact Statements before our representatives change our society. </p>
<p>We need proposed results, expected evolution, methods, justifications, comparative studies, past successes of similar policy, funding sources, expected difficulties, the works. What has worked, not what might work.<br />
(continued below) </p>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11984','Andrew_M_Garland'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11984','Andrew_M_Garland','A speech by Obama on his &lt;i&gt;healthcare vision&lt;\/i&gt; is completely inadequate. These are merely desires, slogans, and goals. We need good medical care, affordable for everyone, with caring doctors, served by super-regulated insurance companies, and a chicken in every pot. Nice wishes, as if wishing would make it so. \n \nThe government demands detailed, researched Environmental Impact Statements before starting a building. We should have Official Policy Impact Statements before our representatives change our society. \n \nWe need proposed results, expected evolution, methods, justifications, comparative studies, past successes of similar policy, funding sources, expected difficulties, the works. What has worked, not what might work. \n(continued below) \n '); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: JEM</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/09/checklist-review/comment-page-2/#comment-11977</link>
		<dc:creator>JEM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes indeed, as your grasp of economics will demonstrate, dropping out didn&#039;t help you one bit. &lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;11977&#039;,&#039;JEM&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;11977&#039;,&#039;JEM&#039;,&#039;Yes indeed, as your grasp of economics will demonstrate, dropping out didn&#039;t help you one bit. &#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes indeed, as your grasp of economics will demonstrate, dropping out didn&#039;t help you one bit.
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		<title>By: JEM</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/09/checklist-review/comment-page-1/#comment-11976</link>
		<dc:creator>JEM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lewin Group would suggest your casual dismissal of the &quot;public option&quot; is flawed - I have seen numbers in the area of 100M lives losing their private insurance within X years - and not some thing like 2030. A public option is a government takeover of the remaining 50% of the health care market they don&#039;t already control. &lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;11976&#039;,&#039;JEM&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;11976&#039;,&#039;JEM&#039;,&#039;The Lewin Group would suggest your casual dismissal of the &quot;public option&quot; is flawed - I have seen numbers in the area of 100M lives losing their private insurance within X years - and not some thing like 2030. A public option is a government takeover of the remaining 50% of the health care market they don&#039;t already control. &#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lewin Group would suggest your casual dismissal of the &quot;public option&quot; is flawed &#8211; I have seen numbers in the area of 100M lives losing their private insurance within X years &#8211; and not some thing like 2030. A public option is a government takeover of the remaining 50% of the health care market they don&#039;t already control.
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		<title>By: The Speech &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/09/checklist-review/comment-page-2/#comment-11973</link>
		<dc:creator>The Speech &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hennessey lays out his predictions for health care [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;11973&#039;,&#039;The Speech &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;11973&#039;,&#039;The Speech &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; Hennessey lays out his predictions for health care &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hennessey lays out his predictions for health care [...]
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/09/checklist-review/comment-page-1/#comment-11970</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hoped there was a procedural rule to prevent that.  
 
Rahm will tell Dems that if they worry a Yea will hurt them in 2010, they should also worry about primary challenges and no Party or union support if they DON&#039;T vote Yea. If you vote the right way and lose in 2010, we&#039;ll take care of you. We only need 60 or 218 and if you&#039;re not in the first 60/218, we owe you nothing.  I can hear Rahm telling a nervous, wavering Member how little it means to be 61st or 219th! 
 
That&#039;s how it&#039;s played in Illinois, and it can be very effective.  My guess is a lot of Members aren&#039;t ready for that. 
 
3 or 4 squishy GOP in the Senate, maybe a dozen in the House (tho maybe not, House GOP held on ARRA), this strategy would have a good chance.  I don&#039;t like most of this proposal, so I hope that if it gets to a Conference, the GOP conferees would include a few willing to fight and leak hard, so there is some warning... but if the Dem majority just has staff go write a report, I suppose it could get jammed through Conference at 9 a.m. and be voted on in both Houses by 1 p.m. or next day? &lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;11970&#039;,&#039;Marty&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;11970&#039;,&#039;Marty&#039;,&#039;I hoped there was a procedural rule to prevent that.  \n \nRahm will tell Dems that if they worry a Yea will hurt them in 2010, they should also worry about primary challenges and no Party or union support if they DON&#039;T vote Yea. If you vote the right way and lose in 2010, we&#039;ll take care of you. We only need 60 or 218 and if you&#039;re not in the first 60\/218, we owe you nothing.  I can hear Rahm telling a nervous, wavering Member how little it means to be 61st or 219th! \n \nThat&#039;s how it&#039;s played in Illinois, and it can be very effective.  My guess is a lot of Members aren&#039;t ready for that. \n \n3 or 4 squishy GOP in the Senate, maybe a dozen in the House (tho maybe not, House GOP held on ARRA), this strategy would have a good chance.  I don&#039;t like most of this proposal, so I hope that if it gets to a Conference, the GOP conferees would include a few willing to fight and leak hard, so there is some warning... but if the Dem majority just has staff go write a report, I suppose it could get jammed through Conference at 9 a.m. and be voted on in both Houses by 1 p.m. or next day? &#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hoped there was a procedural rule to prevent that.  </p>
<p>Rahm will tell Dems that if they worry a Yea will hurt them in 2010, they should also worry about primary challenges and no Party or union support if they DON&#039;T vote Yea. If you vote the right way and lose in 2010, we&#039;ll take care of you. We only need 60 or 218 and if you&#039;re not in the first 60/218, we owe you nothing.  I can hear Rahm telling a nervous, wavering Member how little it means to be 61st or 219th! </p>
<p>That&#039;s how it&#039;s played in Illinois, and it can be very effective.  My guess is a lot of Members aren&#039;t ready for that. </p>
<p>3 or 4 squishy GOP in the Senate, maybe a dozen in the House (tho maybe not, House GOP held on ARRA), this strategy would have a good chance.  I don&#039;t like most of this proposal, so I hope that if it gets to a Conference, the GOP conferees would include a few willing to fight and leak hard, so there is some warning&#8230; but if the Dem majority just has staff go write a report, I suppose it could get jammed through Conference at 9 a.m. and be voted on in both Houses by 1 p.m. or next day?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11970','Marty'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11970','Marty','I hoped there was a procedural rule to prevent that.  \n \nRahm will tell Dems that if they worry a Yea will hurt them in 2010, they should also worry about primary challenges and no Party or union support if they DON&amp;#039;T vote Yea. If you vote the right way and lose in 2010, we&amp;#039;ll take care of you. We only need 60 or 218 and if you&amp;#039;re not in the first 60\/218, we owe you nothing.  I can hear Rahm telling a nervous, wavering Member how little it means to be 61st or 219th! \n \nThat&amp;#039;s how it&amp;#039;s played in Illinois, and it can be very effective.  My guess is a lot of Members aren&amp;#039;t ready for that. \n \n3 or 4 squishy GOP in the Senate, maybe a dozen in the House (tho maybe not, House GOP held on ARRA), this strategy would have a good chance.  I don&amp;#039;t like most of this proposal, so I hope that if it gets to a Conference, the GOP conferees would include a few willing to fight and leak hard, so there is some warning... but if the Dem majority just has staff go write a report, I suppose it could get jammed through Conference at 9 a.m. and be voted on in both Houses by 1 p.m. or next day? '); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Patrick R. Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick R. Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>98 lb governor kicks sand in the face of the bully pulpit: 
 
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Our objections to the Democrats&#8217; health care proposals are not mere &#8220;bickering&#8221; or &#8220;games.&#8221; They are not an attempt to &#8220;score short term political points.&#8221; And it&#8217;s hard to listen to the President lecture us not to use &#8220;scare tactics&#8221; when in the next breath he says that &#8220;more will die&#8221; if his proposals do not pass.  
 
In his speech the President directly responded to concerns I&#8217;ve raised about unelected bureaucrats being given power to make decisions affecting life or death health care matters. He called these concerns &#8220;bogus,&#8221; &#8220;irresponsible,&#8221; and &#8220;a lie&#8221; -- so much for civility. After all the name-calling, though, what he did not do is respond to the arguments we&#8217;ve made, arguments even some of his own supporters have agreed have merit.  
 
In fact, after promising to &#8220;make sure that no government bureaucrat .... gets between you and the health care you need,&#8221; the President repeated his call for an Independent Medicare Advisory Council -- an unelected, largely unaccountable group of bureaucrats charged with containing Medicare costs. 
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Sounds like, &#039;Bring it on.&#039; &lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;11969&#039;,&#039;Patrick R. Sullivan&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;11969&#039;,&#039;Patrick R. Sullivan&#039;,&#039;98 lb governor kicks sand in the face of the bully pulpit: \n \n----------------------quote----------------------- \nOur objections to the Democrats&rsquo; health care proposals are not mere &ldquo;bickering&rdquo; or &ldquo;games.&rdquo; They are not an attempt to &ldquo;score short term political points.&rdquo; And it&rsquo;s hard to listen to the President lecture us not to use &ldquo;scare tactics&rdquo; when in the next breath he says that &ldquo;more will die&rdquo; if his proposals do not pass.  \n \nIn his speech the President directly responded to concerns I&rsquo;ve raised about unelected bureaucrats being given power to make decisions affecting life or death health care matters. He called these concerns &ldquo;bogus,&rdquo; &ldquo;irresponsible,&rdquo; and &ldquo;a lie&rdquo; -- so much for civility. After all the name-calling, though, what he did not do is respond to the arguments we&rsquo;ve made, arguments even some of his own supporters have agreed have merit.  \n \nIn fact, after promising to &ldquo;make sure that no government bureaucrat .... gets between you and the health care you need,&rdquo; the President repeated his call for an Independent Medicare Advisory Council -- an unelected, largely unaccountable group of bureaucrats charged with containing Medicare costs. \n------------------------endquote------------------ \n \nSounds like, &#039;Bring it on.&#039; &#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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Our objections to the Democrats&rsquo; health care proposals are not mere &ldquo;bickering&rdquo; or &ldquo;games.&rdquo; They are not an attempt to &ldquo;score short term political points.&rdquo; And it&rsquo;s hard to listen to the President lecture us not to use &ldquo;scare tactics&rdquo; when in the next breath he says that &ldquo;more will die&rdquo; if his proposals do not pass.  </p>
<p>In his speech the President directly responded to concerns I&rsquo;ve raised about unelected bureaucrats being given power to make decisions affecting life or death health care matters. He called these concerns &ldquo;bogus,&rdquo; &ldquo;irresponsible,&rdquo; and &ldquo;a lie&rdquo; &#8212; so much for civility. After all the name-calling, though, what he did not do is respond to the arguments we&rsquo;ve made, arguments even some of his own supporters have agreed have merit.  </p>
<p>In fact, after promising to &ldquo;make sure that no government bureaucrat &#8230;. gets between you and the health care you need,&rdquo; the President repeated his call for an Independent Medicare Advisory Council &#8212; an unelected, largely unaccountable group of bureaucrats charged with containing Medicare costs.<br />
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<p>Sounds like, &#039;Bring it on.&#039;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11969','Patrick R. Sullivan'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11969','Patrick R. Sullivan','98 lb governor kicks sand in the face of the bully pulpit: \n \n----------------------quote----------------------- \nOur objections to the Democrats&amp;rsquo; health care proposals are not mere &amp;ldquo;bickering&amp;rdquo; or &amp;ldquo;games.&amp;rdquo; They are not an attempt to &amp;ldquo;score short term political points.&amp;rdquo; And it&amp;rsquo;s hard to listen to the President lecture us not to use &amp;ldquo;scare tactics&amp;rdquo; when in the next breath he says that &amp;ldquo;more will die&amp;rdquo; if his proposals do not pass.  \n \nIn his speech the President directly responded to concerns I&amp;rsquo;ve raised about unelected bureaucrats being given power to make decisions affecting life or death health care matters. He called these concerns &amp;ldquo;bogus,&amp;rdquo; &amp;ldquo;irresponsible,&amp;rdquo; and &amp;ldquo;a lie&amp;rdquo; -- so much for civility. After all the name-calling, though, what he did not do is respond to the arguments we&amp;rsquo;ve made, arguments even some of his own supporters have agreed have merit.  \n \nIn fact, after promising to &amp;ldquo;make sure that no government bureaucrat .... gets between you and the health care you need,&amp;rdquo; the President repeated his call for an Independent Medicare Advisory Council -- an unelected, largely unaccountable group of bureaucrats charged with containing Medicare costs. \n------------------------endquote------------------ \n \nSounds like, &amp;#039;Bring it on.&amp;#039; '); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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