Comments on: Understanding the President’s legislative options for health care reform http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/ Your guide to American economic policy Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:57:44 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: JohnDesser http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/comment-page-2/#comment-12081 JohnDesser Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:08:18 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/understanding-the-presidents-legislative-options-for-health-care-reform/#comment-12081 Keith, time to update the scenarios. It seems that both sides are unwittingly and unintentinally playing a game of chicken. Instead of using the Joint Session speach to move the middle, the President used it to reassure the left, which further alienated the handful of Repbulicans that would have been part of a coalition of the willing. That group is getting less willing by the day, beacuse the WH keeps, I suspect unwittingly, pushing them away publicl, and yet believing they can bring them in when it's crunch time. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12081','JohnDesser'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12081','JohnDesser','Keith, time to update the scenarios. It seems that both sides are unwittingly and unintentinally playing a game of chicken. Instead of using the Joint Session speach to move the middle, the President used it to reassure the left, which further alienated the handful of Repbulicans that would have been part of a coalition of the willing. That group is getting less willing by the day, beacuse the WH keeps, I suspect unwittingly, pushing them away publicl, and yet believing they can bring them in when it's crunch time. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Keith, time to update the scenarios. It seems that both sides are unwittingly and unintentinally playing a game of chicken. Instead of using the Joint Session speach to move the middle, the President used it to reassure the left, which further alienated the handful of Repbulicans that would have been part of a coalition of the willing. That group is getting less willing by the day, beacuse the WH keeps, I suspect unwittingly, pushing them away publicl, and yet believing they can bring them in when it's crunch time.
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]]> By: Obama’s options on health care reform | PowerTowneDistro.com http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/comment-page-2/#comment-10887 Obama’s options on health care reform | PowerTowneDistro.com Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:31:46 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/understanding-the-presidents-legislative-options-for-health-care-reform/#comment-10887 [...] http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/ Share and Enjoy: [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10887','Obama’s options on health care reform | PowerTowneDistro.com'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10887','Obama’s options on health care reform | PowerTowneDistro.com','[...] http:\/\/keithhennessey.com\/2009\/09\/02\/health-care-moves\/ Share and Enjoy: [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/ Share and Enjoy: [...]
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]]> By: Keith Hennessey http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/comment-page-2/#comment-10641 Keith Hennessey Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:26:28 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/understanding-the-presidents-legislative-options-for-health-care-reform/#comment-10641 Thanks for the comment. Just a minor correction: points of order are (generally) decided by the Senate parliamentarian. If the parliamentarian is going to rule against you, then if you can get 60 votes you can waive the point of order so that the parliamentarian never rules. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10641','Keith Hennessey'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10641','Keith Hennessey','Thanks for the comment. Just a minor correction: points of order are (generally) decided by the Senate parliamentarian. If the parliamentarian is going to rule against you, then if you can get 60 votes you can waive the point of order so that the parliamentarian never rules. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Thanks for the comment. Just a minor correction: points of order are (generally) decided by the Senate parliamentarian. If the parliamentarian is going to rule against you, then if you can get 60 votes you can waive the point of order so that the parliamentarian never rules.
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]]> By: Updating the legislative scenarios (already)  |  KeithHennessey.com http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/comment-page-2/#comment-10636 Updating the legislative scenarios (already)  |  KeithHennessey.com Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:09:09 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/understanding-the-presidents-legislative-options-for-health-care-reform/#comment-10636 [...] Based on yesterday’s organized leaks from the President’s staff to the press, I am updating my legislative projections one day after making them.  Here are the updated [...]
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]]> By: Health Spending: How Can We Bend the Curve? http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/comment-page-2/#comment-10623 Health Spending: How Can We Bend the Curve? Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:58:23 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/understanding-the-presidents-legislative-options-for-health-care-reform/#comment-10623 [...] as Keith Hennessey emphasizes in a lengthy post on legislative strategy, an individual mandate almost certainly [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10623','Health Spending: How Can We Bend the Curve?'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10623','Health Spending: How Can We Bend the Curve?','[...] as Keith Hennessey emphasizes in a lengthy post on legislative strategy, an individual mandate almost certainly [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] as Keith Hennessey emphasizes in a lengthy post on legislative strategy, an individual mandate almost certainly [...]
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]]> By: Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Making Sausage http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/comment-page-2/#comment-10599 Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Making Sausage Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:01:13 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/understanding-the-presidents-legislative-options-for-health-care-reform/#comment-10599 [...] Hennessey was an assistant to President Bush on economic policy, and has written a really thorough analysis of where the Democrats can go from here on health care reform.  He lays out the possible paths, and gives his estimate of the chance of that particular path [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10599','Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Making Sausage'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10599','Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Making Sausage','[...] Hennessey was an assistant to President Bush on economic policy, and has written a really thorough analysis of where the Democrats can go from here on health care reform.  He lays out the possible paths, and gives his estimate of the chance of that particular path [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] Hennessey was an assistant to President Bush on economic policy, and has written a really thorough analysis of where the Democrats can go from here on health care reform.  He lays out the possible paths, and gives his estimate of the chance of that particular path [...]
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]]> By: Assorted Links (9/3/2009) – Jim Garven's Blog http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/comment-page-2/#comment-10590 Assorted Links (9/3/2009) – Jim Garven's Blog Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:19:45 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/understanding-the-presidents-legislative-options-for-health-care-reform/#comment-10590 [...] recently published Brookings study, contributions by Dartmouth’s Andrew Samwick and Keith Hennessey, and his own analysis) is “…a private insurance market in which essentially everyone [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10590','Assorted Links (9\/3\/2009) – Jim Garven's Blog'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10590','Assorted Links (9\/3\/2009) – Jim Garven's Blog','[...] recently published Brookings study, contributions by Dartmouth’s Andrew Samwick and Keith Hennessey, and his own analysis) is “…a private insurance market in which essentially everyone [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] recently published Brookings study, contributions by Dartmouth’s Andrew Samwick and Keith Hennessey, and his own analysis) is “…a private insurance market in which essentially everyone [...]
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]]> By: My Kids Deserve Better » Blog Archive » My Kids Deserve Better http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/comment-page-2/#comment-10580 My Kids Deserve Better » Blog Archive » My Kids Deserve Better Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:12:41 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/understanding-the-presidents-legislative-options-for-health-care-reform/#comment-10580 [...] but these predictions were part of his job for President Bush, and for leaders in the U.S. Senate: he puts a 55% chance of failure of a comprehensive health reform bill that looks somewhat like the o.... His odds on nothing happening are [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10580','My Kids Deserve Better » Blog Archive » My Kids Deserve Better'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10580','My Kids Deserve Better » Blog Archive » My Kids Deserve Better','[...] but these predictions were part of his job for President Bush, and for leaders in the U.S. Senate: he puts a 55% chance of failure of a comprehensive health reform bill that looks somewhat like the o.... His odds on nothing happening are [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] but these predictions were part of his job for President Bush, and for leaders in the U.S. Senate: he puts a 55% chance of failure of a comprehensive health reform bill that looks somewhat like the o…. His odds on nothing happening are [...]
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]]> By: HlthConsult http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/health-care-moves/comment-page-2/#comment-10445 HlthConsult Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:05:26 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/09/02/understanding-the-presidents-legislative-options-for-health-care-reform/#comment-10445 Angus- I think your scenario of GI/Community rating (or modified community rating) is plausible. I assume by "doc fix" that you meant adjustment in Medicare provider reimbursement rates. The potentially interesting result is that many folks would eventually be disappointed with this solution since it would probably adversely impact rates (premiums would rise) and yet we would get very few of the "47 million" insured, since most of those folks do not want insurance. But this is indeed an interesting scenario. From a libertarian perspective, people that elect not to buy insurance should be allowed to avoid it. It might fly. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10445','HlthConsult'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10445','HlthConsult','Angus- \n \nI think your scenario of GI\/Community rating (or modified community rating) is plausible. I assume by "doc fix" that you meant adjustment in Medicare provider reimbursement rates. \n \nThe potentially interesting result is that many folks would eventually be disappointed with this solution since it would probably adversely impact rates (premiums would rise) and yet we would get very few of the "47 million" insured, since most of those folks do not want insurance. \n \nBut this is indeed an interesting scenario. From a libertarian perspective, people that elect not to buy insurance should be allowed to avoid it. It might fly. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Angus-

I think your scenario of GI/Community rating (or modified community rating) is plausible. I assume by "doc fix" that you meant adjustment in Medicare provider reimbursement rates.

The potentially interesting result is that many folks would eventually be disappointed with this solution since it would probably adversely impact rates (premiums would rise) and yet we would get very few of the "47 million" insured, since most of those folks do not want insurance.

But this is indeed an interesting scenario. From a libertarian perspective, people that elect not to buy insurance should be allowed to avoid it. It might fly.

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