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		<title>By: The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; Obamacare: The mask is off</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; Obamacare: The mask is off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When discussing his proposed government takeover of the US healthcare system, Pres. Obama always hastens to assure people that if you like your current coverage (as the overwhelming majority of people routinely tell pollsters they do), you will be able to keep it. However, if you lose your individual coverage, you will be unable to buy new insurance. And the mentality that outlaws new individual insurance may be inclined to do the same for employer-provided insurance in the future. Not that the Left will have to resort to that. If Obamacare passes, insurance will generally become a function of government. And any &#8220;public option&#8221; that passes will unfairly compete with private insurers &#8212; bypassing the laws that apply to private insurers, sticking taxpayers with hidden administrative costs, pay below-market Medicare rates, and so on, until they have crowded competition out of the market. [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;3647&#039;,&#039;The Greenroom &raquo; Forum Archive &raquo; Obamacare: The mask is off&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;3647&#039;,&#039;The Greenroom &raquo; Forum Archive &raquo; Obamacare: The mask is off&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; When discussing his proposed government takeover of the US healthcare system, Pres. Obama always hastens to assure people that if you like your current coverage (as the overwhelming majority of people routinely tell pollsters they do), you will be able to keep it. However, if you lose your individual coverage, you will be unable to buy new insurance. And the mentality that outlaws new individual insurance may be inclined to do the same for employer-provided insurance in the future. Not that the Left will have to resort to that. If Obamacare passes, insurance will generally become a function of government. And any &#8220;public option&#8221; that passes will unfairly compete with private insurers &#8212; bypassing the laws that apply to private insurers, sticking taxpayers with hidden administrative costs, pay below-market Medicare rates, and so on, until they have crowded competition out of the market. &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When discussing his proposed government takeover of the US healthcare system, Pres. Obama always hastens to assure people that if you like your current coverage (as the overwhelming majority of people routinely tell pollsters they do), you will be able to keep it. However, if you lose your individual coverage, you will be unable to buy new insurance. And the mentality that outlaws new individual insurance may be inclined to do the same for employer-provided insurance in the future. Not that the Left will have to resort to that. If Obamacare passes, insurance will generally become a function of government. And any &#8220;public option&#8221; that passes will unfairly compete with private insurers &#8212; bypassing the laws that apply to private insurers, sticking taxpayers with hidden administrative costs, pay below-market Medicare rates, and so on, until they have crowded competition out of the market. [...]
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		<title>By: Six month economic policy status update&#160;&#124;&#160;KeithHennessey.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Six month economic policy status update&#160;&#124;&#160;KeithHennessey.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] care spending by creating a new entitlement to health insurance.  The President and his advisors emphasize that their long-run budget plan is to “bend the health cost curve downward” by making &#8230;.  While the Administration has proposed policy changes that would increase the information [...]
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		<title>By: Tom Lavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Lavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your don&#039;t have to be a healthcare finance wizard to accept the U.S. Chamber of Commerce opinion on U.S. healthcare.
Just sign the petition at: http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/takeaction/index.cfm?ID=40&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;2051&#039;,&#039;Tom Lavin&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;2051&#039;,&#039;Tom Lavin&#039;,&#039;Your don\&#039;t have to be a healthcare finance wizard to accept the U.S. Chamber of Commerce opinion on U.S. healthcare.\r\nJust sign the petition at: http:\/\/www.friendsoftheuschamber.com\/takeaction\/index.cfm?ID=40&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your don&#8217;t have to be a healthcare finance wizard to accept the U.S. Chamber of Commerce opinion on U.S. healthcare.<br />
Just sign the petition at: <a href="http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/takeaction/index.cfm?ID=40" rel="nofollow">http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/takeaction/index.cfm?ID=40</a>
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		<title>By: Scott Bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith,
Is it true that Congress will Exempt itself from the PUBLIC PLAN, once it becomes THE PLAN for the rest of us?
Secondly, is OBAMA serious about &quot;NOT TAXING The UNIONS Health Care Benefits?
Of course we all know why he wouldn&#039;t!!!

Scott Bond  sb@scottbond.net&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1972&#039;,&#039;Scott Bond&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1972&#039;,&#039;Scott Bond&#039;,&#039;Keith,\r\nIs it true that Congress will Exempt itself from the PUBLIC PLAN, once it becomes THE PLAN for the rest of us?\r\nSecondly, is OBAMA serious about \&quot;NOT TAXING The UNIONS Health Care Benefits?\r\nOf course we all know why he wouldn\&#039;t!!!\r\n\r\nScott Bond  sb@scottbond.net&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,<br />
Is it true that Congress will Exempt itself from the PUBLIC PLAN, once it becomes THE PLAN for the rest of us?<br />
Secondly, is OBAMA serious about &#8220;NOT TAXING The UNIONS Health Care Benefits?<br />
Of course we all know why he wouldn&#8217;t!!!</p>
<p>Scott Bond  <a href="mailto:sb@scottbond.net">sb@scottbond.net</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1972','Scott Bond'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1972','Scott Bond','Keith,\r\nIs it true that Congress will Exempt itself from the PUBLIC PLAN, once it becomes THE PLAN for the rest of us?\r\nSecondly, is OBAMA serious about \&quot;NOT TAXING The UNIONS Health Care Benefits?\r\nOf course we all know why he wouldn\'t!!!\r\n\r\nScott Bond  <a href="mailto:sb@scottbond.net">sb@scottbond.net</a>&#8216;); return false;&#8221;>Quote</div>
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		<title>By: Mary M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hsinetwork.com/E&amp;C_SC-Health_Parente_6-23-2009_oralFinal.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;testimony of Stephen Parente, Ph D&lt;/a&gt;linked over at Hot Air.  Included in his analysis of proposed health care reform, Parente testified:

CBO scored the Kennedy Bill last week at approximately a 30% reduction
for 1 trillion over ten years. Using the ARCOLA model,&lt;strong&gt; we found nearly everyone
would be covered if all elements of the Kennedy bill were enacted at a ten year
cost of 4 trillion.&lt;/strong&gt;   That 4 trillion estimate over 10 years assumes a public option
plan with Bronze, Silver and Gold levels in the proposed insurance exchange with
a subsidy for premium support that is income-adjusted and calibrated for assistance
at the Silver level. The Silver level is equivalent of PPO plan with medium levels
of generosity, something with 15% coinsurance rate, manageable copays and
average level of access to physicians and hospitals. We accounted for the public
plan being reimbursed at 10% above Medicare reimbursement, which is also 10%
below commercial insurance premiums.

Parente seems to be particularly critical of President Obama&#039;s claims that expansion of health care is needed to &quot;bend the cost down.&quot;   Parente was an advisor to Senator McCain&#039;s health care plan and evidently was considered for a position in the Obama administration.   Perhaps someone can answer a question that I don&#039;t understand.  Where is President Obama&#039;s plan that he touted while running for office?  Is Kennedy Dodd supposed to represent the essence of the plan Obama claimed during the campaign?  This question came up for me after viewing the president last night criticizing aspects of McCain&#039;s plan last night on ABC and again while reading Parente&#039;s testimony.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1970&#039;,&#039;Mary M&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1970&#039;,&#039;Mary M&#039;,&#039;I just saw this &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.hsinetwork.com\/E&amp;C_SC-Health_Parente_6-23-2009_oralFinal.pdf\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;testimony of Stephen Parente, Ph D&lt;\/a&gt;linked over at Hot Air.  Included in his analysis of proposed health care reform, Parente testified:\r\n\r\nCBO scored the Kennedy Bill last week at approximately a 30% reduction\r\nfor 1 trillion over ten years. Using the ARCOLA model,&lt;strong&gt; we found nearly everyone\r\nwould be covered if all elements of the Kennedy bill were enacted at a ten year\r\ncost of 4 trillion.&lt;\/strong&gt;   That 4 trillion estimate over 10 years assumes a public option\r\nplan with Bronze, Silver and Gold levels in the proposed insurance exchange with\r\na subsidy for premium support that is income-adjusted and calibrated for assistance\r\nat the Silver level. The Silver level is equivalent of PPO plan with medium levels\r\nof generosity, something with 15% coinsurance rate, manageable copays and\r\naverage level of access to physicians and hospitals. We accounted for the public\r\nplan being reimbursed at 10% above Medicare reimbursement, which is also 10%\r\nbelow commercial insurance premiums.\r\n\r\nParente seems to be particularly critical of President Obama\&#039;s claims that expansion of health care is needed to \&quot;bend the cost down.\&quot;   Parente was an advisor to Senator McCain\&#039;s health care plan and evidently was considered for a position in the Obama administration.   Perhaps someone can answer a question that I don\&#039;t understand.  Where is President Obama\&#039;s plan that he touted while running for office?  Is Kennedy Dodd supposed to represent the essence of the plan Obama claimed during the campaign?  This question came up for me after viewing the president last night criticizing aspects of McCain\&#039;s plan last night on ABC and again while reading Parente\&#039;s testimony.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw this <a href="http://www.hsinetwork.com/E&amp;C_SC-Health_Parente_6-23-2009_oralFinal.pdf" rel="nofollow">testimony of Stephen Parente, Ph D</a>linked over at Hot Air.  Included in his analysis of proposed health care reform, Parente testified:</p>
<p>CBO scored the Kennedy Bill last week at approximately a 30% reduction<br />
for 1 trillion over ten years. Using the ARCOLA model,<strong> we found nearly everyone<br />
would be covered if all elements of the Kennedy bill were enacted at a ten year<br />
cost of 4 trillion.</strong>   That 4 trillion estimate over 10 years assumes a public option<br />
plan with Bronze, Silver and Gold levels in the proposed insurance exchange with<br />
a subsidy for premium support that is income-adjusted and calibrated for assistance<br />
at the Silver level. The Silver level is equivalent of PPO plan with medium levels<br />
of generosity, something with 15% coinsurance rate, manageable copays and<br />
average level of access to physicians and hospitals. We accounted for the public<br />
plan being reimbursed at 10% above Medicare reimbursement, which is also 10%<br />
below commercial insurance premiums.</p>
<p>Parente seems to be particularly critical of President Obama&#8217;s claims that expansion of health care is needed to &#8220;bend the cost down.&#8221;   Parente was an advisor to Senator McCain&#8217;s health care plan and evidently was considered for a position in the Obama administration.   Perhaps someone can answer a question that I don&#8217;t understand.  Where is President Obama&#8217;s plan that he touted while running for office?  Is Kennedy Dodd supposed to represent the essence of the plan Obama claimed during the campaign?  This question came up for me after viewing the president last night criticizing aspects of McCain&#8217;s plan last night on ABC and again while reading Parente&#8217;s testimony.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1970','Mary M'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1970','Mary M','I just saw this &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.hsinetwork.com\/E&amp;amp;C_SC-Health_Parente_6-23-2009_oralFinal.pdf\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;testimony of Stephen Parente, Ph D&lt;\/a&gt;linked over at Hot Air.  Included in his analysis of proposed health care reform, Parente testified:\r\n\r\nCBO scored the Kennedy Bill last week at approximately a 30% reduction\r\nfor 1 trillion over ten years. Using the ARCOLA model,&lt;strong&gt; we found nearly everyone\r\nwould be covered if all elements of the Kennedy bill were enacted at a ten year\r\ncost of 4 trillion.&lt;\/strong&gt;   That 4 trillion estimate over 10 years assumes a public option\r\nplan with Bronze, Silver and Gold levels in the proposed insurance exchange with\r\na subsidy for premium support that is income-adjusted and calibrated for assistance\r\nat the Silver level. The Silver level is equivalent of PPO plan with medium levels\r\nof generosity, something with 15% coinsurance rate, manageable copays and\r\naverage level of access to physicians and hospitals. We accounted for the public\r\nplan being reimbursed at 10% above Medicare reimbursement, which is also 10%\r\nbelow commercial insurance premiums.\r\n\r\nParente seems to be particularly critical of President Obama\'s claims that expansion of health care is needed to \&quot;bend the cost down.\&quot;   Parente was an advisor to Senator McCain\'s health care plan and evidently was considered for a position in the Obama administration.   Perhaps someone can answer a question that I don\'t understand.  Where is President Obama\'s plan that he touted while running for office?  Is Kennedy Dodd supposed to represent the essence of the plan Obama claimed during the campaign?  This question came up for me after viewing the president last night criticizing aspects of McCain\'s plan last night on ABC and again while reading Parente\'s testimony.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Dennis Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,</p>
<p>This is a long comment. I include comments from the blog Junkfood Science and recommend her site because of what I see as a very clever systematic attack on liberty by this administration. It seems that all of their efforts interlock to provide an overall program that is at the same time inexorable and invisible if one doesn’t spend all of one’s time tracking it. None of us has the time for that. Hence the inclusion of other applicable references. I hope that the length nor the references offend.</p>
<p>“…We simply can’t have a system where we throw good money after bad habits.”<br />
“…how can we make sure that everybody is benefiting from lower costs and better quality by improving practices…”<br />
“…It means prevention…”</p>
<p>These three items taken together will put the government in your life as nothing before has. Like so much in this administration, major emphasis is put on a list of nostrums and myths prevalent in the nanny world of leftist politics for the past 45 years. The stimulus bill contains a provision for “…about $1.2 million is to be given to the private organization, Institutes of Medicine, for it to recommend the national priorities that will be supported or funded by the government…making its recommendations for what treatments and strategies will be supported, the IOM says, to enable “doctors and patients to make smart health decisions.”( <a href="http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2009/06/comparative-effective-research-what-it.html)" rel="nofollow">http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2009/06/comparative-effective-research-what-it.html)</a>. This private outift will provide is findings this month. You can be sure that it will contain all the foolishness about obesity, lack of exercise, sugar consumption, red meat consumption, etc. that we’ve all been bombarded with since they won in the “tobacco wars”. The problem is, they don’t work: “…Today’s preventive health strategies promote certain diet and lifestyle behaviors; as well as screenings, tests and treatments of health risk factors; with little credible evidence they improve outcomes for most people, no matter how intuitively correct they may sound. Prevention is not the slam dunk being marketed to consumers….” (<a href="http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2009/06/comparative-effective-research-what-it.html" rel="nofollow">http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2009/06/comparative-effective-research-what-it.html</a>)<br />
“We need to realize that prevention is not going to help reduce the growth of medical spending,” said Dr. Russell. “It’s touted as one [a panacea] but it is not. In fact, prevention has contributed to our rising medical costs.”<br />
Most people don’t understand prevention or cost effective analysis, she explained. Prevention rarely saves money when studies examine actual costs. People don’t realize that studies claiming savings aren’t usually looking at medical costs and savings, she said. “You will see studies claiming that a preventive intervention saves five dollars for every one dollar spent,” she said. “What they are doing is valuing every life saved at the future earnings of the person and including those dollars along with medical costs and savings.” (<a href="http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2009/06/comparative-effective-research-what-it.html" rel="nofollow">http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2009/06/comparative-effective-research-what-it.html</a>)<br />
As with the prostitution of  “global warming” science, medical intervention science is oriented around one thing and one thing only, to control your life and render you absolutely dependant on the government.<br />
“…It means health IT…”</p>
<p>Health IT, will be used in conjunction with the “treatments and strategies” the government is pushing to control what your doctor is providing to you in terms of information and treatment. It will be the source of “data dumps” and correlation studies to create and sell new government “treatments and strategies” to “…enable “doctors and patients to make smart health decisions.”  It will help to make sure that you are still marching in lockstep. And, finally, it will be the source of unending losses of all of your information to hackers just as happens now with way too many government data bases.</p>
<p>“…you can’t preclude people from getting health insurance because of a pre-existing condition…”<br />
“…start providing coverage for people who don’t have health insurance or are underinsured…”</p>
<p>Pure. Unadulterated. Welfare. These alone will swell to unmanageable costs within ten years. Just as did Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and all other federal welfare programs</p>
<p>“Are there antitrust issues or market barriers that necessitate government intervention?”</p>
<p>I have mentioned this before but there is a federal antitrust decision that applies to this. In the late 19th century, insurance companies were numerous and activity was extreme with players entering the market at an ever increasing rate until competition became cutthroat. Many states saw this as a tax windfall and used those powers unmercifully and, at the same time, imposed large numbers of regulations that were highly variable between the states. State supervision was in many cases ignorant and corrupt as well. The companies were trapped between extremely high competition and equally high government-imposed costs and petitioned Congress for relief through a national regulation scheme with basic standards that they could all work under. This was stymied by a Scotus decision (Paul vs, Virginia, 1868) which essentially ruled that insurance was a contract as opposed to commerce and, hence couldn’t be controlled by the national government. The Gordian Knot of state control continued. Again, legislation to eliminate this would seem a useful place to start for the federal government, and a more constitutional application of the purpose of government.</p>
<p>All of the efforts as regards health care would show more promise for the bulk of citizens if they concentrated on getting the feds out of it rather than more solidly imbedded in it. Of course there’s no power payoff in that strategy…
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1949','Dennis Elliott'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1949','Dennis Elliott','Keith,\r\n\r\nThis is a long comment. I include comments from the blog Junkfood Science and recommend her site because of what I see as a very clever systematic attack on liberty by this administration. It seems that all of their efforts interlock to provide an overall program that is at the same time inexorable and invisible if one doesn&acirc;t spend all of one&acirc;s time tracking it. None of us has the time for that. Hence the inclusion of other applicable references. I hope that the length nor the references offend.\r\n\r\n&acirc;&acirc;&brvbar;We simply can&acirc;t have a system where we throw good money after bad habits.&acirc;\r\n&acirc;&acirc;&brvbar;how can we make sure that everybody is benefiting from lower costs and better quality by improving practices&acirc;&brvbar;&acirc;\r\n&acirc;&acirc;&brvbar;It means prevention&acirc;&brvbar;&acirc;\r\n\r\nThese three items taken together will put the government in your life as nothing before has. Like so much in this administration, major emphasis is put on a list of nostrums and myths prevalent in the nanny world of leftist politics for the past 45 years. The stimulus bill contains a provision for &acirc;&acirc;&brvbar;about $1.2 million is to be given to the private organization, Institutes of Medicine, for it to recommend the national priorities that will be supported or funded by the government&acirc;&brvbar;making its recommendations for what treatments and strategies will be supported, the IOM says, to enable &acirc;doctors and patients to make smart health decisions.&acirc;( http:\/\/junkfoodscience.blogspot.com\/2009\/06\/comparative-effective-research-what-it.html). This private outift will provide is findings this month. You can be sure that it will contain all the foolishness about obesity, lack of exercise, sugar consumption, red meat consumption, etc. that we&acirc;ve all been bombarded with since they won in the &acirc;tobacco wars&acirc;. The problem is, they don&acirc;t work: &acirc;&acirc;&brvbar;Today&acirc;s preventive health strategies promote certain diet and lifestyle behaviors; as well as screenings, tests and treatments of health risk factors; with little credible evidence they improve outcomes for most people, no matter how intuitively correct they may sound. Prevention is not the slam dunk being marketed to consumers&acirc;&brvbar;.&acirc; (http:\/\/junkfoodscience.blogspot.com\/2009\/06\/comparative-effective-research-what-it.html)\r\n&acirc;We need to realize that prevention is not going to help reduce the growth of medical spending,&acirc; said Dr. Russell. &acirc;It&acirc;s touted as one &amp;#91;a panacea&amp;#93; but it is not. In fact, prevention has contributed to our rising medical costs.&acirc; \r\nMost people don&acirc;t understand prevention or cost effective analysis, she explained. Prevention rarely saves money when studies examine actual costs. People don&acirc;t realize that studies claiming savings aren&acirc;t usually looking at medical costs and savings, she said. &acirc;You will see studies claiming that a preventive intervention saves five dollars for every one dollar spent,&acirc; she said. &acirc;What they are doing is valuing every life saved at the future earnings of the person and including those dollars along with medical costs and savings.&acirc; (http:\/\/junkfoodscience.blogspot.com\/2009\/06\/comparative-effective-research-what-it.html)\r\nAs with the prostitution of  &acirc;global warming&acirc; science, medical intervention science is oriented around one thing and one thing only, to control your life and render you absolutely dependant on the government.\r\n&acirc;&acirc;&brvbar;It means health IT&acirc;&brvbar;&acirc;\r\n\r\nHealth IT, will be used in conjunction with the &acirc;treatments and strategies&acirc; the government is pushing to control what your doctor is providing to you in terms of information and treatment. It will be the source of &acirc;data dumps&acirc; and correlation studies to create and sell new government &acirc;treatments and strategies&acirc; to &acirc;&acirc;&brvbar;enable &acirc;doctors and patients to make smart health decisions.&acirc;  It will help to make sure that you are still marching in lockstep. And, finally, it will be the source of unending losses of all of your information to hackers just as happens now with way too many government data bases.\r\n\r\n&acirc;&acirc;&brvbar;you can&acirc;t preclude people from getting health insurance because of a pre-existing condition&acirc;&brvbar;&acirc;\r\n&acirc;&acirc;&brvbar;start providing coverage for people who don&acirc;t have health insurance or are underinsured&acirc;&brvbar;&acirc;\r\n\r\nPure. Unadulterated. Welfare. These alone will swell to unmanageable costs within ten years. Just as did Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and all other federal welfare programs\r\n \r\n&acirc;Are there antitrust issues or market barriers that necessitate government intervention?&acirc;\r\n\r\nI have mentioned this before but there is a federal antitrust decision that applies to this. In the late 19th century, insurance companies were numerous and activity was extreme with players entering the market at an ever increasing rate until competition became cutthroat. Many states saw this as a tax windfall and used those powers unmercifully and, at the same time, imposed large numbers of regulations that were highly variable between the states. State supervision was in many cases ignorant and corrupt as well. The companies were trapped between extremely high competition and equally high government-imposed costs and petitioned Congress for relief through a national regulation scheme with basic standards that they could all work under. This was stymied by a Scotus decision (Paul vs, Virginia, 1868) which essentially ruled that insurance was a contract as opposed to commerce and, hence couldn&acirc;t be controlled by the national government. The Gordian Knot of state control continued. Again, legislation to eliminate this would seem a useful place to start for the federal government, and a more constitutional application of the purpose of government.\r\n\r\nAll of the efforts as regards health care would show more promise for the bulk of citizens if they concentrated on getting the feds out of it rather than more solidly imbedded in it. Of course there&acirc;s no power payoff in that strategy&acirc;&brvbar;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vlad, 
Well said about the President&#039;s comment on driving out private insurance providers. Even the home town crowd had to know that was a load. Aside from all the great points Keith made, what about the fact that the government doesn&#039;t have to make a profit to stay in business? Running at a loss?...borrow some more money. No problem. How does the private sector compete with that? We&#039;ve all heard about large corporations selling product at a loss for a period of time to drive out competition before raising the prices back up. Well the government won&#039;t raise prices after the competition is gone, they&#039;ll raise taxes.

This just goes to show why there needs to be an informed debate on this issue, not just a one-sided infomercial. Even I could have debated that softball.
							OH! You&#039;re my new favorite blogger fyi&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1943&#039;,&#039;Pix&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1943&#039;,&#039;Pix&#039;,&#039;Vlad, \nWell said about the President\&#039;s comment on driving out private insurance providers. Even the home town crowd had to know that was a load. Aside from all the great points Keith made, what about the fact that the government doesn\&#039;t have to make a profit to stay in business? Running at a loss?...borrow some more money. No problem. How does the private sector compete with that? We\&#039;ve all heard about large corporations selling product at a loss for a period of time to drive out competition before raising the prices back up. Well the government won\&#039;t raise prices after the competition is gone, they\&#039;ll raise taxes.\n\nThis just goes to show why there needs to be an informed debate on this issue, not just a one-sided infomercial. Even I could have debated that softball.\n							OH! You\&#039;re my new favorite blogger fyi&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vlad,<br />
Well said about the President&#8217;s comment on driving out private insurance providers. Even the home town crowd had to know that was a load. Aside from all the great points Keith made, what about the fact that the government doesn&#8217;t have to make a profit to stay in business? Running at a loss?&#8230;borrow some more money. No problem. How does the private sector compete with that? We&#8217;ve all heard about large corporations selling product at a loss for a period of time to drive out competition before raising the prices back up. Well the government won&#8217;t raise prices after the competition is gone, they&#8217;ll raise taxes.</p>
<p>This just goes to show why there needs to be an informed debate on this issue, not just a one-sided infomercial. Even I could have debated that softball.<br />
							OH! You&#8217;re my new favorite blogger fyi
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1943','Pix'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1943','Pix','Vlad, \nWell said about the President\'s comment on driving out private insurance providers. Even the home town crowd had to know that was a load. Aside from all the great points Keith made, what about the fact that the government doesn\'t have to make a profit to stay in business? Running at a loss?...borrow some more money. No problem. How does the private sector compete with that? We\'ve all heard about large corporations selling product at a loss for a period of time to drive out competition before raising the prices back up. Well the government won\'t raise prices after the competition is gone, they\'ll raise taxes.\n\nThis just goes to show why there needs to be an informed debate on this issue, not just a one-sided infomercial. Even I could have debated that softball.\n							OH! You\'re my new favorite blogger fyi'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Pix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vlad, 
Well said about the President&#039;s comment on driving out private insurance providers. Even the home town crowd had to know that was a load. Aside from all the great points Keith made, what about the fact that the government doesn&#039;t have to make a profit to stay in business? Running at a loss?...borrow some more money. No problem. How does the private sector compete with that? We&#039;ve all heard about large corporations selling product at a loss for a period of time to drive out competition before raising the prices back up. Well the government won&#039;t raise prices after the competition is gone, they&#039;ll raise taxes.

This just goes to show why there needs to be an informed debate on this issue, not just a one-sided infomercial. Even I could have debated that softball.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1941&#039;,&#039;Pix&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1941&#039;,&#039;Pix&#039;,&#039;Vlad, \r\nWell said about the President\&#039;s comment on driving out private insurance providers. Even the home town crowd had to know that was a load. Aside from all the great points Keith made, what about the fact that the government doesn\&#039;t have to make a profit to stay in business? Running at a loss?...borrow some more money. No problem. How does the private sector compete with that? We\&#039;ve all heard about large corporations selling product at a loss for a period of time to drive out competition before raising the prices back up. Well the government won\&#039;t raise prices after the competition is gone, they\&#039;ll raise taxes.\r\n\r\nThis just goes to show why there needs to be an informed debate on this issue, not just a one-sided infomercial. Even I could have debated that softball.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vlad,<br />
Well said about the President&#8217;s comment on driving out private insurance providers. Even the home town crowd had to know that was a load. Aside from all the great points Keith made, what about the fact that the government doesn&#8217;t have to make a profit to stay in business? Running at a loss?&#8230;borrow some more money. No problem. How does the private sector compete with that? We&#8217;ve all heard about large corporations selling product at a loss for a period of time to drive out competition before raising the prices back up. Well the government won&#8217;t raise prices after the competition is gone, they&#8217;ll raise taxes.</p>
<p>This just goes to show why there needs to be an informed debate on this issue, not just a one-sided infomercial. Even I could have debated that softball.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1941','Pix'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1941','Pix','Vlad, \r\nWell said about the President\'s comment on driving out private insurance providers. Even the home town crowd had to know that was a load. Aside from all the great points Keith made, what about the fact that the government doesn\'t have to make a profit to stay in business? Running at a loss?...borrow some more money. No problem. How does the private sector compete with that? We\'ve all heard about large corporations selling product at a loss for a period of time to drive out competition before raising the prices back up. Well the government won\'t raise prices after the competition is gone, they\'ll raise taxes.\r\n\r\nThis just goes to show why there needs to be an informed debate on this issue, not just a one-sided infomercial. Even I could have debated that softball.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: AIP Blog</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/24/potus-presser-health/comment-page-1/#comment-1919</link>
		<dc:creator>AIP Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Morning Conservative Reading List - June 25, 2009...&lt;/strong&gt;

Enjoy these conservative articles and blog posts from around the web: Not seen on ABC last night: Republican...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1919&#039;,&#039;AIP Blog&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1919&#039;,&#039;AIP Blog&#039;,&#039;&lt;strong&gt;Morning Conservative Reading List - June 25, 2009...&lt;\/strong&gt;\n\nEnjoy these conservative articles and blog posts from around the web: Not seen on ABC last night: Republican...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Morning Conservative Reading List &#8211; June 25, 2009&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Enjoy these conservative articles and blog posts from around the web: Not seen on ABC last night: Republican&#8230;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1919','AIP Blog'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1919','AIP Blog','&lt;strong&gt;Morning Conservative Reading List - June 25, 2009...&lt;\/strong&gt;\n\nEnjoy these conservative articles and blog posts from around the web: Not seen on ABC last night: Republican...'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: vlad</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/24/potus-presser-health/comment-page-1/#comment-1890</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That comment about not seeing why the government would drive private companies out of business is absolutely astonishing.  I don&#039;t expect Obama to be a Ph.D. in Economics, but I would hope that he is informed enough to understand how silly that statement is.

The health care debate really came home for me this week.  I run a small business and our health provider, Oxford, just jacked up our premiums for the plan by 25% year-over-year.  That&#039;s just an incredible increase.  My response has been to seek out a plan that is geared towards only catastrophic coverage and not towards paying only $15 to see a doctor.  I&#039;ve never understood exactly how our conception of &quot;insurance&quot; expanded from protection against injury, accident or chronic condition to the idea that we should never, ever pay a $ our of our own pockets for even basic service.  I suppose the answer is that health care (for employees) is a tax free, &quot;invisible&quot; benefit, so they have the incentive to push for heavier coverage as they don&#039;t see the cost.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1890&#039;,&#039;vlad&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1890&#039;,&#039;vlad&#039;,&#039;That comment about not seeing why the government would drive private companies out of business is absolutely astonishing.  I don\&#039;t expect Obama to be a Ph.D. in Economics, but I would hope that he is informed enough to understand how silly that statement is.\r\n\r\nThe health care debate really came home for me this week.  I run a small business and our health provider, Oxford, just jacked up our premiums for the plan by 25% year-over-year.  That\&#039;s just an incredible increase.  My response has been to seek out a plan that is geared towards only catastrophic coverage and not towards paying only $15 to see a doctor.  I\&#039;ve never understood exactly how our conception of \&quot;insurance\&quot; expanded from protection against injury, accident or chronic condition to the idea that we should never, ever pay a $ our of our own pockets for even basic service.  I suppose the answer is that health care (for employees) is a tax free, \&quot;invisible\&quot; benefit, so they have the incentive to push for heavier coverage as they don\&#039;t see the cost.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That comment about not seeing why the government would drive private companies out of business is absolutely astonishing.  I don&#8217;t expect Obama to be a Ph.D. in Economics, but I would hope that he is informed enough to understand how silly that statement is.</p>
<p>The health care debate really came home for me this week.  I run a small business and our health provider, Oxford, just jacked up our premiums for the plan by 25% year-over-year.  That&#8217;s just an incredible increase.  My response has been to seek out a plan that is geared towards only catastrophic coverage and not towards paying only $15 to see a doctor.  I&#8217;ve never understood exactly how our conception of &#8220;insurance&#8221; expanded from protection against injury, accident or chronic condition to the idea that we should never, ever pay a $ our of our own pockets for even basic service.  I suppose the answer is that health care (for employees) is a tax free, &#8220;invisible&#8221; benefit, so they have the incentive to push for heavier coverage as they don&#8217;t see the cost.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1890','vlad'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1890','vlad','That comment about not seeing why the government would drive private companies out of business is absolutely astonishing.  I don\'t expect Obama to be a Ph.D. in Economics, but I would hope that he is informed enough to understand how silly that statement is.\r\n\r\nThe health care debate really came home for me this week.  I run a small business and our health provider, Oxford, just jacked up our premiums for the plan by 25% year-over-year.  That\'s just an incredible increase.  My response has been to seek out a plan that is geared towards only catastrophic coverage and not towards paying only $15 to see a doctor.  I\'ve never understood exactly how our conception of \&quot;insurance\&quot; expanded from protection against injury, accident or chronic condition to the idea that we should never, ever pay a $ our of our own pockets for even basic service.  I suppose the answer is that health care (for employees) is a tax free, \&quot;invisible\&quot; benefit, so they have the incentive to push for heavier coverage as they don\'t see the cost.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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