Comments on: Understanding the Kennedy health care bill http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/ Your guide to American economic policy Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:57:44 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Allyn http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/comment-page-16/#comment-15738 Allyn Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:52:39 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/understanding-the-kennedy-health-care-bill/#comment-15738 You are out of your minds. What a one sided view and a skewed analysis. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15738','Allyn'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15738','Allyn','You are out of your minds. What a one sided view and a skewed analysis. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> You are out of your minds. What a one sided view and a skewed analysis.
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]]> By: John http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-15612 John Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:53:22 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/understanding-the-kennedy-health-care-bill/#comment-15612 Here is one more idea. They don't even want the health bill for themselves!! They are going to try and keep a separate system for themselves. Even if they are stupid enough to think they can escape their own bill. NO doctor will stick around to be a GP let alone specialist to be on their separate medical policies. PS The number of times out of 600 congressmen (or so) that a specialist is needed is not going to even pay for the first year of undergrad . .. .money/greed that wont even save them. Which I know has to be sitting in the backs of their minds or, why would they right themselves out of such a great bill? <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15612','John'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15612','John','Here is one more idea. They don't even want the health bill for themselves!! They are going to try and keep a separate system for themselves. Even if they are stupid enough to think they can escape their own bill. NO doctor will stick around to be a GP let alone specialist to be on their separate medical policies. \n \nPS The number of times out of 600 congressmen (or so) that a specialist is needed is not going to even pay for the first year of undergrad . .. .money\/greed that wont even save them. Which I know has to be sitting in the backs of their minds or, why would they right themselves out of such a great bill? '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Here is one more idea. They don't even want the health bill for themselves!! They are going to try and keep a separate system for themselves. Even if they are stupid enough to think they can escape their own bill. NO doctor will stick around to be a GP let alone specialist to be on their separate medical policies.

PS The number of times out of 600 congressmen (or so) that a specialist is needed is not going to even pay for the first year of undergrad . .. .money/greed that wont even save them. Which I know has to be sitting in the backs of their minds or, why would they right themselves out of such a great bill?

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]]> By: john http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-15606 john Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:56:17 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/understanding-the-kennedy-health-care-bill/#comment-15606 PURSUIT being the key word. Nothing was every guaranteed or given. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15606','john'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15606','john','PURSUIT being the key word. Nothing was every guaranteed or given. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> PURSUIT being the key word. Nothing was every guaranteed or given.
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]]> By: John Haller D.C. http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-15605 John Haller D.C. Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:51:35 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/understanding-the-kennedy-health-care-bill/#comment-15605 Doctors, nurses, and other . .. . .have the right to judge what is best for their patients. . .. AMEN!!!!! I agree with this part too! But the insurance companies are the one establishing standard filing fees. NOT the doctors. So the insurance companies are the one establishing how much you are billed. (This varies with every policy and region.) You might also noted the "provider right off" that's money that truly just disappears into thin air. If the doctors are to decide then why are they to be punished if the patient has to be admitted for the same condition twice? What is the the punishment by the government for the patient who has chronic conditions because of their lifestyle (smoking, drinking, diet. . .). AMEN!!!! to no one going bankrupt, but lets also throw in a capitation on "pain and suffering." One of the largest cost of a practicing doctor is malpractice insurance! A good area to research this is Kansas City. It is split down the middle between Missouri and Kansas state line. Kansas has a cap and Missouri does not. Kansas side has many forms of specialists, and Missouri doesn't. Why, the doctors in Missouri can't afford the added cost of the malpractice insurance, because their patients can not afford the trickle down cost they would pay in increased fees. (Ask your doctors what they pay in malpractice.) I HATE DOCTORS THAT DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR PATIENTS! This does not mean that if a honest doctor makes a mistake that he should be sued without civil limitations. I am getting windy, but in short why have the lawyers .. sorry i mean congressmen not addressed this problem? Maybe its the cut of the winnings they get from the lucrative lawsuits. By the way, its a bipartisan thing. Don't blame the other side. Lastly, why are they being exempt from the health care bill? I think it was amendment 28 that stated they could not right laws that did not apply equal to both congress and the public? <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15605',' John Haller D.C.'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15605',' John Haller D.C.','Doctors, nurses, and other . .. . .have the right to judge what is best for their patients. . .. AMEN!!!!! I agree with this part too! But the insurance companies are the one establishing standard filing fees. NOT the doctors. So the insurance companies are the one establishing how much you are billed. (This varies with every policy and region.) You might also noted the "provider right off" that's money that truly just disappears into thin air. If the doctors are to decide then why are they to be punished if the patient has to be admitted for the same condition twice? What is the the punishment by the government for the patient who has chronic conditions because of their lifestyle (smoking, drinking, diet. . .). \n \nAMEN!!!! to no one going bankrupt, but lets also throw in a capitation on "pain and suffering." One of the largest cost of a practicing doctor is malpractice insurance! A good area to research this is Kansas City. It is split down the middle between Missouri and Kansas state line. Kansas has a cap and Missouri does not. Kansas side has many forms of specialists, and Missouri doesn't. Why, the doctors in Missouri can't afford the added cost of the malpractice insurance, because their patients can not afford the trickle down cost they would pay in increased fees. (Ask your doctors what they pay in malpractice.) I HATE DOCTORS THAT DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR PATIENTS! This does not mean that if a honest doctor makes a mistake that he should be sued without civil limitations. \nI am getting windy, but in short why have the lawyers .. sorry i mean congressmen not addressed this problem? Maybe its the cut of the winnings they get from the lucrative lawsuits. By the way, its a bipartisan thing. Don't blame the other side. \n \nLastly, why are they being exempt from the health care bill? I think it was amendment 28 that stated they could not right laws that did not apply equal to both congress and the public? '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Doctors, nurses, and other . .. . .have the right to judge what is best for their patients. . .. AMEN!!!!! I agree with this part too! But the insurance companies are the one establishing standard filing fees. NOT the doctors. So the insurance companies are the one establishing how much you are billed. (This varies with every policy and region.) You might also noted the "provider right off" that's money that truly just disappears into thin air. If the doctors are to decide then why are they to be punished if the patient has to be admitted for the same condition twice? What is the the punishment by the government for the patient who has chronic conditions because of their lifestyle (smoking, drinking, diet. . .).

AMEN!!!! to no one going bankrupt, but lets also throw in a capitation on "pain and suffering." One of the largest cost of a practicing doctor is malpractice insurance! A good area to research this is Kansas City. It is split down the middle between Missouri and Kansas state line. Kansas has a cap and Missouri does not. Kansas side has many forms of specialists, and Missouri doesn't. Why, the doctors in Missouri can't afford the added cost of the malpractice insurance, because their patients can not afford the trickle down cost they would pay in increased fees. (Ask your doctors what they pay in malpractice.) I HATE DOCTORS THAT DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR PATIENTS! This does not mean that if a honest doctor makes a mistake that he should be sued without civil limitations.
I am getting windy, but in short why have the lawyers .. sorry i mean congressmen not addressed this problem? Maybe its the cut of the winnings they get from the lucrative lawsuits. By the way, its a bipartisan thing. Don't blame the other side.

Lastly, why are they being exempt from the health care bill? I think it was amendment 28 that stated they could not right laws that did not apply equal to both congress and the public?

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]]> By: Jan Hansen http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-15420 Jan Hansen Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:11:58 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/understanding-the-kennedy-health-care-bill/#comment-15420 first... I'd just like to say that, Europe has a very different government than we do, there is not liberal, or democrat... the Right doesn't exist in Europe, and by putting the "american" way on every single country in the world, you're just proving how very "american" you are... don't think for a minute that the Europeans think or have the same political beliefs as americans do, I live in europe, and guess what? we like obama... all of my friends and family, and pretty much every european I know, would have voted for him... and unless you're extremely un-informed, you must know that this bill is proposing something very similar to what we in Europe already have for healthcare!!! oh, and please, don't come to the EU if you don't want "socialism" cuz guess what? Germany is a socialist government, Holland is a socialist government, belgium, france, switzerland, poland, greece, austria... you may want to do a little more research before you make such an ignorant statement <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15420','Jan Hansen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15420','Jan Hansen','first... I'd just like to say that, Europe has a very different government than we do, there is not liberal, or democrat... the Right doesn't exist in Europe, and by putting the "american" way on every single country in the world, you're just proving how very "american" you are... don't think for a minute that the Europeans think or have the same political beliefs as americans do, I live in europe, and guess what? we like obama... all of my friends and family, and pretty much every european I know, would have voted for him... and unless you're extremely un-informed, you must know that this bill is proposing something very similar to what we in Europe already have for healthcare!!! \noh, and please, don't come to the EU if you don't want "socialism" cuz guess what? Germany is a socialist government, Holland is a socialist government, belgium, france, switzerland, poland, greece, austria... you may want to do a little more research before you make such an ignorant statement '); return false;">Quote</a></div> first… I'd just like to say that, Europe has a very different government than we do, there is not liberal, or democrat… the Right doesn't exist in Europe, and by putting the "american" way on every single country in the world, you're just proving how very "american" you are… don't think for a minute that the Europeans think or have the same political beliefs as americans do, I live in europe, and guess what? we like obama… all of my friends and family, and pretty much every european I know, would have voted for him… and unless you're extremely un-informed, you must know that this bill is proposing something very similar to what we in Europe already have for healthcare!!!
oh, and please, don't come to the EU if you don't want "socialism" cuz guess what? Germany is a socialist government, Holland is a socialist government, belgium, france, switzerland, poland, greece, austria… you may want to do a little more research before you make such an ignorant statement
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]]> By: Gary Bullock http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/comment-page-16/#comment-15174 Gary Bullock Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:30:35 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/understanding-the-kennedy-health-care-bill/#comment-15174 is it true the senate has exempted themselves from enrollment in this idiotic plan????. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15174','Gary Bullock'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15174','Gary Bullock','is it true the senate has exempted themselves from enrollment in this idiotic plan????. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> is it true the senate has exempted themselves from enrollment in this idiotic plan????.
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]]> By: Gary Bullock http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/comment-page-16/#comment-15165 Gary Bullock Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:53:40 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/understanding-the-kennedy-health-care-bill/#comment-15165 Is it true the senate has entered a clause exempting themselves from enrolling in this health care program???. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15165','Gary Bullock'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15165','Gary Bullock','Is it true the senate has entered a clause exempting themselves from enrolling in this health care program???. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Is it true the senate has entered a clause exempting themselves from enrolling in this health care program???.
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]]> By: Maguire http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/comment-page-16/#comment-13851 Maguire Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:51:18 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/understanding-the-kennedy-health-care-bill/#comment-13851 There is an exorbitant amount of cost going into and surrounding the establishment of this bill. However these costs are only in addition to the overall cost of health care. Complete health care reform is necessary, not simply the provider care reform which we are currently awaiting. . According to Eva Mor author of (Making the Golden Years Golden), “The administration of the existing health delivery system is bloated with waste and unnecessary cost. If information was shared by all providers of health services and all insurers by using computerized systems to store all medical records, it would cut costs and reduce errors that would save and improve lives.” <a href="http://www.ourblook.com/component/option,com_sectionex/Itemid,200076/id,8/view,category/#catid107" target="_blank">http://www.ourblook.com/component/option,com_sect...</a> Preventative care is something we need desperately in this country so the real question is going to be, how do we get it? Especially when there are so many parties who have private interests at stake in the face of reform. Health care is a public service which every American will eventually require at some point in their lives, however as it stands, health care has been diluted by bureaucracy, industry, and politics. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13851','Maguire'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13851','Maguire','There is an exorbitant amount of cost going into and surrounding the establishment of this bill. However these costs are only in addition to the overall cost of health care. Complete health care reform is necessary, not simply the provider care reform which we are currently awaiting. . According to Eva Mor author of (Making the Golden Years Golden), “The administration of the existing health delivery system is bloated with waste and unnecessary cost. If information was shared by all providers of health services and all insurers by using computerized systems to store all medical records, it would cut costs and reduce errors that would save and improve lives.” <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ourblook.com\/component\/option,com_sectionex\/Itemid,200076\/id,8\/view,category\/#catid107\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.ourblook.com\/component\/option,com_sect...<\/a> \nPreventative care is something we need desperately in this country so the real question is going to be, how do we get it? Especially when there are so many parties who have private interests at stake in the face of reform. Health care is a public service which every American will eventually require at some point in their lives, however as it stands, health care has been diluted by bureaucracy, industry, and politics. \n '); return false;">Quote</a></div> There is an exorbitant amount of cost going into and surrounding the establishment of this bill. However these costs are only in addition to the overall cost of health care. Complete health care reform is necessary, not simply the provider care reform which we are currently awaiting. . According to Eva Mor author of (Making the Golden Years Golden), “The administration of the existing health delivery system is bloated with waste and unnecessary cost. If information was shared by all providers of health services and all insurers by using computerized systems to store all medical records, it would cut costs and reduce errors that would save and improve lives.” http://www.ourblook.com/component/option,com_sect...
Preventative care is something we need desperately in this country so the real question is going to be, how do we get it? Especially when there are so many parties who have private interests at stake in the face of reform. Health care is a public service which every American will eventually require at some point in their lives, however as it stands, health care has been diluted by bureaucracy, industry, and politics.

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]]> By: nunya http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/comment-page-16/#comment-13509 nunya Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:59:39 +0000 http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/understanding-the-kennedy-health-care-bill/#comment-13509 Here is all you need to know. I worked for the gov civil service and my healthcare did not include dental or vision and it cost me 300 a mo for family. I then switched to my wife's, same insurance co but through her company, and it cost us 150 a mo. Prescriptions cheap and low deductibles. Had surgery under mine and we paid 700 in deductibles. Wife had surgery under hers and we paid 0. To make matters worse, postal employees have better benefits but we were both gov employees. F the gov and OSAMA! As a vet, I can also tell you how they screwed me over with the GI bill as well. The gov can do nothing right. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13509','nunya'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13509','nunya','Here is all you need to know. I worked for the gov civil service and my healthcare did not include dental or vision and it cost me 300 a mo for family. I then switched to my wife's, same insurance co but through her company, and it cost us 150 a mo. Prescriptions cheap and low deductibles. Had surgery under mine and we paid 700 in deductibles. Wife had surgery under hers and we paid 0. To make matters worse, postal employees have better benefits but we were both gov employees. F the gov and OSAMA! As a vet, I can also tell you how they screwed me over with the GI bill as well. The gov can do nothing right. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Here is all you need to know. I worked for the gov civil service and my healthcare did not include dental or vision and it cost me 300 a mo for family. I then switched to my wife's, same insurance co but through her company, and it cost us 150 a mo. Prescriptions cheap and low deductibles. Had surgery under mine and we paid 700 in deductibles. Wife had surgery under hers and we paid 0. To make matters worse, postal employees have better benefits but we were both gov employees. F the gov and OSAMA! As a vet, I can also tell you how they screwed me over with the GI bill as well. The gov can do nothing right.
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