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		<title>By: poker blog</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/05/19/understanding-the-presidents-cafe-announcement/comment-page-5/#comment-14382</link>
		<dc:creator>poker blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great analysis &lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;14382&#039;,&#039;poker blog&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;14382&#039;,&#039;poker blog&#039;,&#039;Great analysis &#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great analysis
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		<title>By: Make Keith hennessey blog work for you &#124; Blogisbeautiful</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make Keith hennessey blog work for you &#124; Blogisbeautiful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we force the american tax payer, the auto &amp; other related industries  to spend untold billions of dollars to develop expensive technologies and build expensive little cars that nobody wants to buy, costing us who knows how many american jobs, and creating even more damage across our already wounded economy, and all for what amounts to absolutley no benefit to anybody or anything. All in the name of fighting a global problem that probably doesn&#039;t really even exist.  Welcome to the new America.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5989&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5989&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;,&#039;So we force the american tax payer, the auto &amp; other related industries  to spend untold billions of dollars to develop expensive technologies and build expensive little cars that nobody wants to buy, costing us who knows how many american jobs, and creating even more damage across our already wounded economy, and all for what amounts to absolutley no benefit to anybody or anything. All in the name of fighting a global problem that probably doesn\&#039;t really even exist.  Welcome to the new America.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we force the american tax payer, the auto &amp; other related industries  to spend untold billions of dollars to develop expensive technologies and build expensive little cars that nobody wants to buy, costing us who knows how many american jobs, and creating even more damage across our already wounded economy, and all for what amounts to absolutley no benefit to anybody or anything. All in the name of fighting a global problem that probably doesn&#8217;t really even exist.  Welcome to the new America.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5989','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5989','Mike','So we force the american tax payer, the auto &amp;amp; other related industries  to spend untold billions of dollars to develop expensive technologies and build expensive little cars that nobody wants to buy, costing us who knows how many american jobs, and creating even more damage across our already wounded economy, and all for what amounts to absolutley no benefit to anybody or anything. All in the name of fighting a global problem that probably doesn\'t really even exist.  Welcome to the new America.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article and resources.  I am impressed with your (KBH) willingness to hear good points, whether you agree or disagree.  It&#039;s refreshing.  I havn&#039;t read the NHTSA report yet but will look it over because I am interested in their assumptions.  From my perspective as a private citizen, the American auto industry (AAI) has been ignoring efficiency standards far too long.  So the AAI wants me, private citizen, to believe that having to increase their fuel efficiency will hurt business.  But Ford owns Volvo which produces the diesel S40 which gets over 60 mpg without sacrificing power, comfort, or safety.  But this version is only available in Europe.  There are ways to produce a quality car that gets good mileage (makes that section of the population happy) while delivering performance (makes that part of the population happy).  AAI knows this technology and even owns a lot of it.  So I find it disingenuous for them to make this &#039;hurts our business&#039; claim.

Mark H. - The consumer welfare issue is a good point.  Companies should offer what consumers &#039;want&#039;.  Or at least what we&#039;re told we want.  (As someone who doesn&#039;t want a big SUV, it&#039;s clear that &#039;society&#039; does a lot to tell me otherwise). But giving the people only what they want, and not what they need, is not a sustainable strategy (as they have discovered).  The AAI should be the leaders in car technology and should constantly look at the &#039;horizon&#039; to see what new &#039;thing&#039; will improve their cars. But they are not geared up for that and consequently it will take several very expensive years for them to catch up.  They were going down the &quot;bigger is better&quot; road, while the rest of the industry was going down the &quot;efficiency&quot; road.  As a business, they deserve to fail.  They failed to identify the trends.  As consumers, it&#039;s hard for us to see trends on a global perspective.  But as a world industry, it is their job.

In regards to your last comment.  You, unintentionally,  make part of my point perfectly.  American cars during that time were pretty bad.  Meanwhile, Honda produced the Civic and Accord.  The AAI makes claims that certain things can&#039;t be done, while other companies are actually doing them.  Where is that American &quot;can-do&quot; attitude?  Where is that American ingenuity we like to brag about so much?  It seems the AAI spends so much time trying to shoot down efficiency standards instead of meeting the challenge of making an efficient, powerful, safe car that people want to buy.  I think this is ultimately the reason the CAFE rules were increased.  So as to push the AAI to meet this challenge.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5239&#039;,&#039;Kevin Mc&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5239&#039;,&#039;Kevin Mc&#039;,&#039;Great article and resources.  I am impressed with your (KBH) willingness to hear good points, whether you agree or disagree.  It\&#039;s refreshing.  I havn\&#039;t read the NHTSA report yet but will look it over because I am interested in their assumptions.  From my perspective as a private citizen, the American auto industry (AAI) has been ignoring efficiency standards far too long.  So the AAI wants me, private citizen, to believe that having to increase their fuel efficiency will hurt business.  But Ford owns Volvo which produces the diesel S40 which gets over 60 mpg without sacrificing power, comfort, or safety.  But this version is only available in Europe.  There are ways to produce a quality car that gets good mileage (makes that section of the population happy) while delivering performance (makes that part of the population happy).  AAI knows this technology and even owns a lot of it.  So I find it disingenuous for them to make this \&#039;hurts our business\&#039; claim.\r\n\r\nMark H. - The consumer welfare issue is a good point.  Companies should offer what consumers \&#039;want\&#039;.  Or at least what we\&#039;re told we want.  (As someone who doesn\&#039;t want a big SUV, it\&#039;s clear that \&#039;society\&#039; does a lot to tell me otherwise). But giving the people only what they want, and not what they need, is not a sustainable strategy (as they have discovered).  The AAI should be the leaders in car technology and should constantly look at the \&#039;horizon\&#039; to see what new \&#039;thing\&#039; will improve their cars. But they are not geared up for that and consequently it will take several very expensive years for them to catch up.  They were going down the \&quot;bigger is better\&quot; road, while the rest of the industry was going down the \&quot;efficiency\&quot; road.  As a business, they deserve to fail.  They failed to identify the trends.  As consumers, it\&#039;s hard for us to see trends on a global perspective.  But as a world industry, it is their job.\r\n\r\nIn regards to your last comment.  You, unintentionally,  make part of my point perfectly.  American cars during that time were pretty bad.  Meanwhile, Honda produced the Civic and Accord.  The AAI makes claims that certain things can\&#039;t be done, while other companies are actually doing them.  Where is that American \&quot;can-do\&quot; attitude?  Where is that American ingenuity we like to brag about so much?  It seems the AAI spends so much time trying to shoot down efficiency standards instead of meeting the challenge of making an efficient, powerful, safe car that people want to buy.  I think this is ultimately the reason the CAFE rules were increased.  So as to push the AAI to meet this challenge.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and resources.  I am impressed with your (KBH) willingness to hear good points, whether you agree or disagree.  It&#8217;s refreshing.  I havn&#8217;t read the NHTSA report yet but will look it over because I am interested in their assumptions.  From my perspective as a private citizen, the American auto industry (AAI) has been ignoring efficiency standards far too long.  So the AAI wants me, private citizen, to believe that having to increase their fuel efficiency will hurt business.  But Ford owns Volvo which produces the diesel S40 which gets over 60 mpg without sacrificing power, comfort, or safety.  But this version is only available in Europe.  There are ways to produce a quality car that gets good mileage (makes that section of the population happy) while delivering performance (makes that part of the population happy).  AAI knows this technology and even owns a lot of it.  So I find it disingenuous for them to make this &#8216;hurts our business&#8217; claim.</p>
<p>Mark H. &#8211; The consumer welfare issue is a good point.  Companies should offer what consumers &#8216;want&#8217;.  Or at least what we&#8217;re told we want.  (As someone who doesn&#8217;t want a big SUV, it&#8217;s clear that &#8217;society&#8217; does a lot to tell me otherwise). But giving the people only what they want, and not what they need, is not a sustainable strategy (as they have discovered).  The AAI should be the leaders in car technology and should constantly look at the &#8216;horizon&#8217; to see what new &#8216;thing&#8217; will improve their cars. But they are not geared up for that and consequently it will take several very expensive years for them to catch up.  They were going down the &#8220;bigger is better&#8221; road, while the rest of the industry was going down the &#8220;efficiency&#8221; road.  As a business, they deserve to fail.  They failed to identify the trends.  As consumers, it&#8217;s hard for us to see trends on a global perspective.  But as a world industry, it is their job.</p>
<p>In regards to your last comment.  You, unintentionally,  make part of my point perfectly.  American cars during that time were pretty bad.  Meanwhile, Honda produced the Civic and Accord.  The AAI makes claims that certain things can&#8217;t be done, while other companies are actually doing them.  Where is that American &#8220;can-do&#8221; attitude?  Where is that American ingenuity we like to brag about so much?  It seems the AAI spends so much time trying to shoot down efficiency standards instead of meeting the challenge of making an efficient, powerful, safe car that people want to buy.  I think this is ultimately the reason the CAFE rules were increased.  So as to push the AAI to meet this challenge.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5239','Kevin Mc'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5239','Kevin Mc','Great article and resources.  I am impressed with your (KBH) willingness to hear good points, whether you agree or disagree.  It\'s refreshing.  I havn\'t read the NHTSA report yet but will look it over because I am interested in their assumptions.  From my perspective as a private citizen, the American auto industry (AAI) has been ignoring efficiency standards far too long.  So the AAI wants me, private citizen, to believe that having to increase their fuel efficiency will hurt business.  But Ford owns Volvo which produces the diesel S40 which gets over 60 mpg without sacrificing power, comfort, or safety.  But this version is only available in Europe.  There are ways to produce a quality car that gets good mileage (makes that section of the population happy) while delivering performance (makes that part of the population happy).  AAI knows this technology and even owns a lot of it.  So I find it disingenuous for them to make this \'hurts our business\' claim.\r\n\r\nMark H. - The consumer welfare issue is a good point.  Companies should offer what consumers \'want\'.  Or at least what we\'re told we want.  (As someone who doesn\'t want a big SUV, it\'s clear that \'society\' does a lot to tell me otherwise). But giving the people only what they want, and not what they need, is not a sustainable strategy (as they have discovered).  The AAI should be the leaders in car technology and should constantly look at the \'horizon\' to see what new \'thing\' will improve their cars. But they are not geared up for that and consequently it will take several very expensive years for them to catch up.  They were going down the \&quot;bigger is better\&quot; road, while the rest of the industry was going down the \&quot;efficiency\&quot; road.  As a business, they deserve to fail.  They failed to identify the trends.  As consumers, it\'s hard for us to see trends on a global perspective.  But as a world industry, it is their job.\r\n\r\nIn regards to your last comment.  You, unintentionally,  make part of my point perfectly.  American cars during that time were pretty bad.  Meanwhile, Honda produced the Civic and Accord.  The AAI makes claims that certain things can\'t be done, while other companies are actually doing them.  Where is that American \&quot;can-do\&quot; attitude?  Where is that American ingenuity we like to brag about so much?  It seems the AAI spends so much time trying to shoot down efficiency standards instead of meeting the challenge of making an efficient, powerful, safe car that people want to buy.  I think this is ultimately the reason the CAFE rules were increased.  So as to push the AAI to meet this challenge.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Climate Trade Offs &#124; Conservative.FM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Climate Trade Offs &#124; Conservative.FM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CAFE standards, the evidence does not look good that we are getting a very good deal. AsÂ explainedÂ by the economist and former Bush administration advisor Kieth Hennessey the National Highway [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4850&#039;,&#039;Climate Trade Offs &#124; Conservative.FM&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4850&#039;,&#039;Climate Trade Offs &#124; Conservative.FM&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; CAFE standards, the evidence does not look good that we are getting a very good deal. As&#194;&#160;explained&#194;&#160;by the economist and former Bush administration advisor Kieth Hennessey the National Highway &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CAFE standards, the evidence does not look good that we are getting a very good deal. AsÂ explainedÂ by the economist and former Bush administration advisor Kieth Hennessey the National Highway [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4850','Climate Trade Offs | Conservative.FM'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4850','Climate Trade Offs | Conservative.FM','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; CAFE standards, the evidence does not look good that we are getting a very good deal. As&Acirc;&nbsp;explained&Acirc;&nbsp;by the economist and former Bush administration advisor Kieth Hennessey the National Highway &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: scottstanzel.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News You Can Use - Former 43ers Quick Hits</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottstanzel.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News You Can Use - Former 43ers Quick Hits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Economic Council, now writing and educating on American economic policy)- A couple weeks ago, Keith posted an exhaustive analysis of the Obama Administration&#8217;s CAFE announcement. He always had a knack for explaining complex policy in a way that makes sense to those of us [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;654&#039;,&#039;scottstanzel.com &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; News You Can Use - Former 43ers Quick Hits&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;654&#039;,&#039;scottstanzel.com &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; News You Can Use - Former 43ers Quick Hits&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; Economic Council, now writing and educating on American economic policy)- A couple weeks ago, Keith posted an exhaustive analysis of the Obama Administration&#8217;s CAFE announcement. He always had a knack for explaining complex policy in a way that makes sense to those of us &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Economic Council, now writing and educating on American economic policy)- A couple weeks ago, Keith posted an exhaustive analysis of the Obama Administration&#8217;s CAFE announcement. He always had a knack for explaining complex policy in a way that makes sense to those of us [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('654','scottstanzel.com &amp;raquo; Blog Archive &amp;raquo; News You Can Use - Former 43ers Quick Hits'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('654','scottstanzel.com &amp;raquo; Blog Archive &amp;raquo; News You Can Use - Former 43ers Quick Hits','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; Economic Council, now writing and educating on American economic policy)- A couple weeks ago, Keith posted an exhaustive analysis of the Obama Administration&amp;#8217;s CAFE announcement. He always had a knack for explaining complex policy in a way that makes sense to those of us &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mark H.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great site Keith, finally a web blog with meat on policy issues. That said, a few comments...

First, any cost-benefit analysis is problematical, especially for a number of independent variables and economic conditions that are 6 or 7 years in the future. Moreover, many of these variables are very uncertain in the present, and open to dispute (e.g. carbon costs, pollution costs, military costs). Imagine making a private investiment proposal (which requires due diligence and robust numbers) with such a methodology?

Second, I am leery of any &quot;study&quot; of 1000 pages that speaks to &quot;social benefits and costs&quot; ignores &quot;consumer welfare&quot; (a term used once in the 1000 pages). When consumer preferences are distorted by mandates, even if such preferences are not important to the government planners, then it is a welfare loss.  For example, Obama has touted his program as &#039;saving money&#039; for the consumer, ignoring that consumers chose (in the 1990s) to increase horsepower, comfort, utility, and amentities over fuel economy.  If, in 2016, the consumer preferences are not equal to the government classes and mandates, then that is a welfare loss.  Is that basic economic concept reflected in the study?

Third, TB=TC is &quot;wrong&quot;. If USA Corp spent 2 million, to produce 4 million in revenue then that is an efficient use of resources (a net wealth additon to GDP of 2 million). If USA corporation spends 5 million to produce 5 million in revenue it produces nothing - and suffers opportunity costs in that the economy could have spent the same 5 million (privately or publically) to produce a greater return. That is inefficient.

Moreover, when dealing with uncertainty, no investor would risk hard costs for uncertain (and difficult to measure benefits) that merely break even.

Last, experience with past studies and polices (CAFE standards of the 70s) show they are highly dubious for long range social planning. The &quot;economy&quot; cars produced between 76 and 82 were some of the worst made in American automobile history - underpowered, difficult to repair, high maintenance, etc. Yet, I am sure such CAFE standards also &quot;promised&quot; energy independence(etc).&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;653&#039;,&#039;Mark H.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;653&#039;,&#039;Mark H.&#039;,&#039;Great site Keith, finally a web blog with meat on policy issues. That said, a few comments...\n\nFirst, any cost-benefit analysis is problematical, especially for a number of independent variables and economic conditions that are 6 or 7 years in the future. Moreover, many of these variables are very uncertain in the present, and open to dispute (e.g. carbon costs, pollution costs, military costs). Imagine making a private investiment proposal (which requires due diligence and robust numbers) with such a methodology?\n\nSecond, I am leery of any \&quot;study\&quot; of 1000 pages that speaks to \&quot;social benefits and costs\&quot; ignores \&quot;consumer welfare\&quot; (a term used once in the 1000 pages). When consumer preferences are distorted by mandates, even if such preferences are not important to the government planners, then it is a welfare loss.  For example, Obama has touted his program as \&#039;saving money\&#039; for the consumer, ignoring that consumers chose (in the 1990s) to increase horsepower, comfort, utility, and amentities over fuel economy.  If, in 2016, the consumer preferences are not equal to the government classes and mandates, then that is a welfare loss.  Is that basic economic concept reflected in the study?\n\nThird, TB=TC is \&quot;wrong\&quot;. If USA Corp spent 2 million, to produce 4 million in revenue then that is an efficient use of resources (a net wealth additon to GDP of 2 million). If USA corporation spends 5 million to produce 5 million in revenue it produces nothing - and suffers opportunity costs in that the economy could have spent the same 5 million (privately or publically) to produce a greater return. That is inefficient.\n\nMoreover, when dealing with uncertainty, no investor would risk hard costs for uncertain (and difficult to measure benefits) that merely break even.\n\nLast, experience with past studies and polices (CAFE standards of the 70s) show they are highly dubious for long range social planning. The \&quot;economy\&quot; cars produced between 76 and 82 were some of the worst made in American automobile history - underpowered, difficult to repair, high maintenance, etc. Yet, I am sure such CAFE standards also \&quot;promised\&quot; energy independence(etc).&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great site Keith, finally a web blog with meat on policy issues. That said, a few comments&#8230;</p>
<p>First, any cost-benefit analysis is problematical, especially for a number of independent variables and economic conditions that are 6 or 7 years in the future. Moreover, many of these variables are very uncertain in the present, and open to dispute (e.g. carbon costs, pollution costs, military costs). Imagine making a private investiment proposal (which requires due diligence and robust numbers) with such a methodology?</p>
<p>Second, I am leery of any &#8220;study&#8221; of 1000 pages that speaks to &#8220;social benefits and costs&#8221; ignores &#8220;consumer welfare&#8221; (a term used once in the 1000 pages). When consumer preferences are distorted by mandates, even if such preferences are not important to the government planners, then it is a welfare loss.  For example, Obama has touted his program as &#8217;saving money&#8217; for the consumer, ignoring that consumers chose (in the 1990s) to increase horsepower, comfort, utility, and amentities over fuel economy.  If, in 2016, the consumer preferences are not equal to the government classes and mandates, then that is a welfare loss.  Is that basic economic concept reflected in the study?</p>
<p>Third, TB=TC is &#8220;wrong&#8221;. If USA Corp spent 2 million, to produce 4 million in revenue then that is an efficient use of resources (a net wealth additon to GDP of 2 million). If USA corporation spends 5 million to produce 5 million in revenue it produces nothing &#8211; and suffers opportunity costs in that the economy could have spent the same 5 million (privately or publically) to produce a greater return. That is inefficient.</p>
<p>Moreover, when dealing with uncertainty, no investor would risk hard costs for uncertain (and difficult to measure benefits) that merely break even.</p>
<p>Last, experience with past studies and polices (CAFE standards of the 70s) show they are highly dubious for long range social planning. The &#8220;economy&#8221; cars produced between 76 and 82 were some of the worst made in American automobile history &#8211; underpowered, difficult to repair, high maintenance, etc. Yet, I am sure such CAFE standards also &#8220;promised&#8221; energy independence(etc).
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('653','Mark H.'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('653','Mark H.','Great site Keith, finally a web blog with meat on policy issues. That said, a few comments...\n\nFirst, any cost-benefit analysis is problematical, especially for a number of independent variables and economic conditions that are 6 or 7 years in the future. Moreover, many of these variables are very uncertain in the present, and open to dispute (e.g. carbon costs, pollution costs, military costs). Imagine making a private investiment proposal (which requires due diligence and robust numbers) with such a methodology?\n\nSecond, I am leery of any \&quot;study\&quot; of 1000 pages that speaks to \&quot;social benefits and costs\&quot; ignores \&quot;consumer welfare\&quot; (a term used once in the 1000 pages). When consumer preferences are distorted by mandates, even if such preferences are not important to the government planners, then it is a welfare loss.  For example, Obama has touted his program as \'saving money\' for the consumer, ignoring that consumers chose (in the 1990s) to increase horsepower, comfort, utility, and amentities over fuel economy.  If, in 2016, the consumer preferences are not equal to the government classes and mandates, then that is a welfare loss.  Is that basic economic concept reflected in the study?\n\nThird, TB=TC is \&quot;wrong\&quot;. If USA Corp spent 2 million, to produce 4 million in revenue then that is an efficient use of resources (a net wealth additon to GDP of 2 million). If USA corporation spends 5 million to produce 5 million in revenue it produces nothing - and suffers opportunity costs in that the economy could have spent the same 5 million (privately or publically) to produce a greater return. That is inefficient.\n\nMoreover, when dealing with uncertainty, no investor would risk hard costs for uncertain (and difficult to measure benefits) that merely break even.\n\nLast, experience with past studies and polices (CAFE standards of the 70s) show they are highly dubious for long range social planning. The \&quot;economy\&quot; cars produced between 76 and 82 were some of the worst made in American automobile history - underpowered, difficult to repair, high maintenance, etc. Yet, I am sure such CAFE standards also \&quot;promised\&quot; energy independence(etc).'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Hugo Becker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo Becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the technology coming (and here is a number of cars, including the BMW N54 twin turbo six cylinder, GM Ecotec 4 cylinder, and Ford&#039;s new EcoBoost V6) is direct fuel injection (DFI) and low pressure turbo-supercharging.

Basically the direct fuel injection uses a fuel injector that is located in the cylinder head, usually adjacent to the spark plug. The intake track is &#039;dry&#039; all the way into the cylinder. This allows some really interesting valve timing (and even lean burn capabilities if the fuel quality is consistent enough). By opening an intake valve sooner (while the exhaust valve is open and the piston is returning to top dead center on the exhaust stroke) you can reduce emissions.

BMW believes they receive about a 15% increase in fuel mileage based on an engine w/o DFI and of similar power ratings. By coupling the DFI with low pressure turbocharging (less than 15 psi of boost) you can further increase performance (or reduce engine size).

It&#039;s pretty slick technology - and here&#039;s a wiki link for those insomniacs in the group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;652&#039;,&#039;Hugo Becker&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;652&#039;,&#039;Hugo Becker&#039;,&#039;Some of the technology coming (and here is a number of cars, including the BMW N54 twin turbo six cylinder, GM Ecotec 4 cylinder, and Ford\&#039;s new EcoBoost V6) is direct fuel injection (DFI) and low pressure turbo-supercharging.\n\nBasically the direct fuel injection uses a fuel injector that is located in the cylinder head, usually adjacent to the spark plug. The intake track is \&#039;dry\&#039; all the way into the cylinder. This allows some really interesting valve timing (and even lean burn capabilities if the fuel quality is consistent enough). By opening an intake valve sooner (while the exhaust valve is open and the piston is returning to top dead center on the exhaust stroke) you can reduce emissions.\n\nBMW believes they receive about a 15% increase in fuel mileage based on an engine w\/o DFI and of similar power ratings. By coupling the DFI with low pressure turbocharging (less than 15 psi of boost) you can further increase performance (or reduce engine size).\n\nIt\&#039;s pretty slick technology - and here\&#039;s a wiki link for those insomniacs in the group: http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gasoline_direct_injection&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the technology coming (and here is a number of cars, including the BMW N54 twin turbo six cylinder, GM Ecotec 4 cylinder, and Ford&#8217;s new EcoBoost V6) is direct fuel injection (DFI) and low pressure turbo-supercharging.</p>
<p>Basically the direct fuel injection uses a fuel injector that is located in the cylinder head, usually adjacent to the spark plug. The intake track is &#8216;dry&#8217; all the way into the cylinder. This allows some really interesting valve timing (and even lean burn capabilities if the fuel quality is consistent enough). By opening an intake valve sooner (while the exhaust valve is open and the piston is returning to top dead center on the exhaust stroke) you can reduce emissions.</p>
<p>BMW believes they receive about a 15% increase in fuel mileage based on an engine w/o DFI and of similar power ratings. By coupling the DFI with low pressure turbocharging (less than 15 psi of boost) you can further increase performance (or reduce engine size).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty slick technology &#8211; and here&#8217;s a wiki link for those insomniacs in the group: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('652','Hugo Becker'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('652','Hugo Becker','Some of the technology coming (and here is a number of cars, including the BMW N54 twin turbo six cylinder, GM Ecotec 4 cylinder, and Ford\'s new EcoBoost V6) is direct fuel injection (DFI) and low pressure turbo-supercharging.\n\nBasically the direct fuel injection uses a fuel injector that is located in the cylinder head, usually adjacent to the spark plug. The intake track is \'dry\' all the way into the cylinder. This allows some really interesting valve timing (and even lean burn capabilities if the fuel quality is consistent enough). By opening an intake valve sooner (while the exhaust valve is open and the piston is returning to top dead center on the exhaust stroke) you can reduce emissions.\n\nBMW believes they receive about a 15% increase in fuel mileage based on an engine w\/o DFI and of similar power ratings. By coupling the DFI with low pressure turbocharging (less than 15 psi of boost) you can further increase performance (or reduce engine size).\n\nIt\'s pretty slick technology - and here\'s a wiki link for those insomniacs in the group: http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gasoline_direct_injection'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Gracie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gracie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see the President, wife, mother-in-law, dog, 2 kids and luggage for a weekend at Camp David get into a fuel efficient &quot;small&quot; car and drive to the mountains instead of taking a non-fuel efficient helicopter!  I&#039;m sure the government will be  keeping all of the huge and armoured black SUV&#039;s they use as a motorcade for the President, or candidates or Pelosi and the rest of the Beltway figures.   It all is a bunch of talk that I predict will never become  &quot; a nation full of small cars.&quot;  Clearly WE DON&#039;T WANT SMALL CARS.  One of the best examples of good engineering, style, and a well run car manufacturer is Honda.   The American made car is not #1 anymore.   And the &quot;Global Warming&quot; argument is just hogwash.  So let&#039;s get down to the nitty-gritty - We need car manufactures to make good, solid cars, of the size we are driving now and that can do it at a profit.  The government and tax payers do not want to run private enterprises.  Let Capitalism work !!!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;651&#039;,&#039;Gracie&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;651&#039;,&#039;Gracie&#039;,&#039;Let\&#039;s see the President, wife, mother-in-law, dog, 2 kids and luggage for a weekend at Camp David get into a fuel efficient \&quot;small\&quot; car and drive to the mountains instead of taking a non-fuel efficient helicopter!  I\&#039;m sure the government will be  keeping all of the huge and armoured black SUV\&#039;s they use as a motorcade for the President, or candidates or Pelosi and the rest of the Beltway figures.   It all is a bunch of talk that I predict will never become  \&quot; a nation full of small cars.\&quot;  Clearly WE DON\&#039;T WANT SMALL CARS.  One of the best examples of good engineering, style, and a well run car manufacturer is Honda.   The American made car is not #1 anymore.   And the \&quot;Global Warming\&quot; argument is just hogwash.  So let\&#039;s get down to the nitty-gritty - We need car manufactures to make good, solid cars, of the size we are driving now and that can do it at a profit.  The government and tax payers do not want to run private enterprises.  Let Capitalism work !!!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see the President, wife, mother-in-law, dog, 2 kids and luggage for a weekend at Camp David get into a fuel efficient &#8220;small&#8221; car and drive to the mountains instead of taking a non-fuel efficient helicopter!  I&#8217;m sure the government will be  keeping all of the huge and armoured black SUV&#8217;s they use as a motorcade for the President, or candidates or Pelosi and the rest of the Beltway figures.   It all is a bunch of talk that I predict will never become  &#8221; a nation full of small cars.&#8221;  Clearly WE DON&#8217;T WANT SMALL CARS.  One of the best examples of good engineering, style, and a well run car manufacturer is Honda.   The American made car is not #1 anymore.   And the &#8220;Global Warming&#8221; argument is just hogwash.  So let&#8217;s get down to the nitty-gritty &#8211; We need car manufactures to make good, solid cars, of the size we are driving now and that can do it at a profit.  The government and tax payers do not want to run private enterprises.  Let Capitalism work !!!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('651','Gracie'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('651','Gracie','Let\'s see the President, wife, mother-in-law, dog, 2 kids and luggage for a weekend at Camp David get into a fuel efficient \&quot;small\&quot; car and drive to the mountains instead of taking a non-fuel efficient helicopter!  I\'m sure the government will be  keeping all of the huge and armoured black SUV\'s they use as a motorcade for the President, or candidates or Pelosi and the rest of the Beltway figures.   It all is a bunch of talk that I predict will never become  \&quot; a nation full of small cars.\&quot;  Clearly WE DON\'T WANT SMALL CARS.  One of the best examples of good engineering, style, and a well run car manufacturer is Honda.   The American made car is not #1 anymore.   And the \&quot;Global Warming\&quot; argument is just hogwash.  So let\'s get down to the nitty-gritty - We need car manufactures to make good, solid cars, of the size we are driving now and that can do it at a profit.  The government and tax payers do not want to run private enterprises.  Let Capitalism work !!!'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: KeithHennessey com Understanding the President CAFE announcement &#124; Hammock Stand</title>
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		<dc:creator>KeithHennessey com Understanding the President CAFE announcement &#124; Hammock Stand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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