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		<title>By: How to measure health care cost control&#160;&#124;&#160;KeithHennessey.com</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/04/21/slowing-health-cost-growth-requires-information-and-incentives/comment-page-1/#comment-1991</link>
		<dc:creator>How to measure health care cost control&#160;&#124;&#160;KeithHennessey.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have proposed no policies that would change incentives for private consumers of health care.  (I wrote about this in April.)  Without such policies, you cannot meet Test 3 or Test 4.  And without such policies, [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1991&#039;,&#039;How to measure health care cost control&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;KeithHennessey.com&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1991&#039;,&#039;How to measure health care cost control&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;KeithHennessey.com&#039;,&#039;&#091;...&#093; have proposed no policies that would change incentives for private consumers of health care.&#194;&#160; (I wrote about this in April.)&#194;&#160; Without such policies, you cannot meet Test 3 or Test 4.&#194;&#160; And without such policies, &#091;...&#093;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have proposed no policies that would change incentives for private consumers of health care.  (I wrote about this in April.)  Without such policies, you cannot meet Test 3 or Test 4.  And without such policies, [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1991','How to measure health care cost control&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;KeithHennessey.com'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1991','How to measure health care cost control&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;KeithHennessey.com','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; have proposed no policies that would change incentives for private consumers of health care.&Acirc;&nbsp; (I wrote about this in April.)&Acirc;&nbsp; Without such policies, you cannot meet Test 3 or Test 4.&Acirc;&nbsp; And without such policies, &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: The President&#8217;s press conference: health&#160;&#124;&#160;KeithHennessey.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>The President&#8217;s press conference: health&#160;&#124;&#160;KeithHennessey.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from that (highly objectionable) provision, I can find nothing that would provide information and incentives to consumers, medical professionals, health plans, employers, or governments to slow the growth of [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1857&#039;,&#039;The President&rsquo;s press conference: health&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;KeithHennessey.com&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1857&#039;,&#039;The President&rsquo;s press conference: health&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;KeithHennessey.com&#039;,&#039;&#091;...&#093; from that (highly objectionable) provision, I can find nothing that would provide information and incentives to consumers, medical professionals, health plans, employers, or governments to slow the growth of &#091;...&#093;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from that (highly objectionable) provision, I can find nothing that would provide information and incentives to consumers, medical professionals, health plans, employers, or governments to slow the growth of [...]
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		<title>By: Steven Hales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Hales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about getting hospitals to price according to costs.  They don&#039;t currently do this, prices are arbitrary or the provision of self-administered drugs during an inpatient stay wouldn&#039;t cost as much as the simulated hourly compensation of a neurosurgeon or the cost of a chest x-ray wouldn&#039;t vary by as much as 250% across the US.  This is the result of ad-hoc adjustments to the chargemaster line items to cover total costs.  Efficiencies, if there are any, are not captured and the hospital can pocket gains from innovations they might adopt leaving payers ignorant of the innovations.  Undertake a nationwide audit of all hospitals and force a standardized coding system for all chargemasters.  Force insurers to use this same system and force Medicare and Medicaid to do the same.  It would end the coding nightmare that currently exists and would keep hospitals from gaming the coding system.  Hospitals throw people at problems not technology.  They are the most inefficient institutions that now exist other than schools and universities.  This problem is worldwide in developed countries.

Regarding health insurance, health insurance is really not insurance it seems to be simply a payment system.  It does not fully insure for catastrophic risk as there are caps of typically $2 million lifetime.  Many middle class families breach this cap every year for a variety of reasons and file for bankruptcy.  I would rather insure for true catastrophe say any health emergency that exceeded $10,000 per year.  Such a deductible would likely lower my monthly premium to about $300.  Less than half what my employer provided plan now costs.  My costs have more than doubled in 4 short years.  I think it is possible to structure a catastrophic excess policy whose premiums are very low.

If I had confidence that the charges on my hospital bill were market prices then I would gladly adopt such insurance.  But until there are comprehensive reforms of how hospitals do business I wouldn&#039;t accept such high deductible policies as I would be at the mercy of a bloated institution without incentives to innovate.  Simply raising copays through high deductibles does not give a hospital incentive to innovate.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;290&#039;,&#039;Steven Hales&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;290&#039;,&#039;Steven Hales&#039;,&#039;How about getting hospitals to price according to costs.  They don\&#039;t currently do this, prices are arbitrary or the provision of self-administered drugs during an inpatient stay wouldn\&#039;t cost as much as the simulated hourly compensation of a neurosurgeon or the cost of a chest x-ray wouldn\&#039;t vary by as much as 250% across the US.  This is the result of ad-hoc adjustments to the chargemaster line items to cover total costs.  Efficiencies, if there are any, are not captured and the hospital can pocket gains from innovations they might adopt leaving payers ignorant of the innovations.  Undertake a nationwide audit of all hospitals and force a standardized coding system for all chargemasters.  Force insurers to use this same system and force Medicare and Medicaid to do the same.  It would end the coding nightmare that currently exists and would keep hospitals from gaming the coding system.  Hospitals throw people at problems not technology.  They are the most inefficient institutions that now exist other than schools and universities.  This problem is worldwide in developed countries.\n\nRegarding health insurance, health insurance is really not insurance it seems to be simply a payment system.  It does not fully insure for catastrophic risk as there are caps of typically $2 million lifetime.  Many middle class families breach this cap every year for a variety of reasons and file for bankruptcy.  I would rather insure for true catastrophe say any health emergency that exceeded $10,000 per year.  Such a deductible would likely lower my monthly premium to about $300.  Less than half what my employer provided plan now costs.  My costs have more than doubled in 4 short years.  I think it is possible to structure a catastrophic excess policy whose premiums are very low.\n\nIf I had confidence that the charges on my hospital bill were market prices then I would gladly adopt such insurance.  But until there are comprehensive reforms of how hospitals do business I wouldn\&#039;t accept such high deductible policies as I would be at the mercy of a bloated institution without incentives to innovate.  Simply raising copays through high deductibles does not give a hospital incentive to innovate.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about getting hospitals to price according to costs.  They don&#8217;t currently do this, prices are arbitrary or the provision of self-administered drugs during an inpatient stay wouldn&#8217;t cost as much as the simulated hourly compensation of a neurosurgeon or the cost of a chest x-ray wouldn&#8217;t vary by as much as 250% across the US.  This is the result of ad-hoc adjustments to the chargemaster line items to cover total costs.  Efficiencies, if there are any, are not captured and the hospital can pocket gains from innovations they might adopt leaving payers ignorant of the innovations.  Undertake a nationwide audit of all hospitals and force a standardized coding system for all chargemasters.  Force insurers to use this same system and force Medicare and Medicaid to do the same.  It would end the coding nightmare that currently exists and would keep hospitals from gaming the coding system.  Hospitals throw people at problems not technology.  They are the most inefficient institutions that now exist other than schools and universities.  This problem is worldwide in developed countries.</p>
<p>Regarding health insurance, health insurance is really not insurance it seems to be simply a payment system.  It does not fully insure for catastrophic risk as there are caps of typically $2 million lifetime.  Many middle class families breach this cap every year for a variety of reasons and file for bankruptcy.  I would rather insure for true catastrophe say any health emergency that exceeded $10,000 per year.  Such a deductible would likely lower my monthly premium to about $300.  Less than half what my employer provided plan now costs.  My costs have more than doubled in 4 short years.  I think it is possible to structure a catastrophic excess policy whose premiums are very low.</p>
<p>If I had confidence that the charges on my hospital bill were market prices then I would gladly adopt such insurance.  But until there are comprehensive reforms of how hospitals do business I wouldn&#8217;t accept such high deductible policies as I would be at the mercy of a bloated institution without incentives to innovate.  Simply raising copays through high deductibles does not give a hospital incentive to innovate.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('290','Steven Hales'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('290','Steven Hales','How about getting hospitals to price according to costs.  They don\'t currently do this, prices are arbitrary or the provision of self-administered drugs during an inpatient stay wouldn\'t cost as much as the simulated hourly compensation of a neurosurgeon or the cost of a chest x-ray wouldn\'t vary by as much as 250% across the US.  This is the result of ad-hoc adjustments to the chargemaster line items to cover total costs.  Efficiencies, if there are any, are not captured and the hospital can pocket gains from innovations they might adopt leaving payers ignorant of the innovations.  Undertake a nationwide audit of all hospitals and force a standardized coding system for all chargemasters.  Force insurers to use this same system and force Medicare and Medicaid to do the same.  It would end the coding nightmare that currently exists and would keep hospitals from gaming the coding system.  Hospitals throw people at problems not technology.  They are the most inefficient institutions that now exist other than schools and universities.  This problem is worldwide in developed countries.\n\nRegarding health insurance, health insurance is really not insurance it seems to be simply a payment system.  It does not fully insure for catastrophic risk as there are caps of typically $2 million lifetime.  Many middle class families breach this cap every year for a variety of reasons and file for bankruptcy.  I would rather insure for true catastrophe say any health emergency that exceeded $10,000 per year.  Such a deductible would likely lower my monthly premium to about $300.  Less than half what my employer provided plan now costs.  My costs have more than doubled in 4 short years.  I think it is possible to structure a catastrophic excess policy whose premiums are very low.\n\nIf I had confidence that the charges on my hospital bill were market prices then I would gladly adopt such insurance.  But until there are comprehensive reforms of how hospitals do business I wouldn\'t accept such high deductible policies as I would be at the mercy of a bloated institution without incentives to innovate.  Simply raising copays through high deductibles does not give a hospital incentive to innovate.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Andrew Biggs</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/04/21/slowing-health-cost-growth-requires-information-and-incentives/comment-page-1/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Biggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you read current CBO director Doug Elmendorf&#039;s early March testimony on reducing health care costs, the word &#039;incentives&#039; appears around 35 times. While the focus of the testimony is on proposed reforms to reduce health care costs -- health IT, disease management, and comparative effectiveness research -- in all cases he stresses that their success depends on correctly aligning incentives. Ironically, if we instituted reforms that did correctly align incentives -- e.g., reducing/eliminating the tax preference for employer-provided health care; shifting toward a low premium/high deductible model of insurance versus the high premium/low deductible model we currently have -- then these reforms would likely come about organically through the market rather than having to be imposed by Congress. Unfortunately, as Keith notes in his post, the administration so far has focused on these relatively small-potatoes reforms and not enough on getting incentives right.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;289&#039;,&#039;Andrew Biggs&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;289&#039;,&#039;Andrew Biggs&#039;,&#039;If you read current CBO director Doug Elmendorf\&#039;s early March testimony on reducing health care costs, the word \&#039;incentives\&#039; appears around 35 times. While the focus of the testimony is on proposed reforms to reduce health care costs -- health IT, disease management, and comparative effectiveness research -- in all cases he stresses that their success depends on correctly aligning incentives. Ironically, if we instituted reforms that did correctly align incentives -- e.g., reducing\/eliminating the tax preference for employer-provided health care; shifting toward a low premium\/high deductible model of insurance versus the high premium\/low deductible model we currently have -- then these reforms would likely come about organically through the market rather than having to be imposed by Congress. Unfortunately, as Keith notes in his post, the administration so far has focused on these relatively small-potatoes reforms and not enough on getting incentives right.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read current CBO director Doug Elmendorf&#8217;s early March testimony on reducing health care costs, the word &#8216;incentives&#8217; appears around 35 times. While the focus of the testimony is on proposed reforms to reduce health care costs &#8212; health IT, disease management, and comparative effectiveness research &#8212; in all cases he stresses that their success depends on correctly aligning incentives. Ironically, if we instituted reforms that did correctly align incentives &#8212; e.g., reducing/eliminating the tax preference for employer-provided health care; shifting toward a low premium/high deductible model of insurance versus the high premium/low deductible model we currently have &#8212; then these reforms would likely come about organically through the market rather than having to be imposed by Congress. Unfortunately, as Keith notes in his post, the administration so far has focused on these relatively small-potatoes reforms and not enough on getting incentives right.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('289','Andrew Biggs'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('289','Andrew Biggs','If you read current CBO director Doug Elmendorf\'s early March testimony on reducing health care costs, the word \'incentives\' appears around 35 times. While the focus of the testimony is on proposed reforms to reduce health care costs -- health IT, disease management, and comparative effectiveness research -- in all cases he stresses that their success depends on correctly aligning incentives. Ironically, if we instituted reforms that did correctly align incentives -- e.g., reducing\/eliminating the tax preference for employer-provided health care; shifting toward a low premium\/high deductible model of insurance versus the high premium\/low deductible model we currently have -- then these reforms would likely come about organically through the market rather than having to be imposed by Congress. Unfortunately, as Keith notes in his post, the administration so far has focused on these relatively small-potatoes reforms and not enough on getting incentives right.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: The elephant's child</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/04/21/slowing-health-cost-growth-requires-information-and-incentives/comment-page-1/#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator>The elephant's child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that the most effective tool is to insist that all members of congress and government must participate in exactly the same system that they apply to the American people. After all, if congress is going to make the rules and legislate about what can and cannot be done, then they should understand the system from within in order to make effective rules. Otherwise they would just be bureaucrats legislating on things of which they have no personal knowledge -- a major reason for the colossal failure of so many government programs.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;288&#039;,&#039;The elephant\&#039;s child&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;288&#039;,&#039;The elephant\&#039;s child&#039;,&#039;Seems to me that the most effective tool is to insist that all members of congress and government must participate in exactly the same system that they apply to the American people. After all, if congress is going to make the rules and legislate about what can and cannot be done, then they should understand the system from within in order to make effective rules. Otherwise they would just be bureaucrats legislating on things of which they have no personal knowledge -- a major reason for the colossal failure of so many government programs.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that the most effective tool is to insist that all members of congress and government must participate in exactly the same system that they apply to the American people. After all, if congress is going to make the rules and legislate about what can and cannot be done, then they should understand the system from within in order to make effective rules. Otherwise they would just be bureaucrats legislating on things of which they have no personal knowledge &#8212; a major reason for the colossal failure of so many government programs.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('288','The elephant\'s child'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('288','The elephant\'s child','Seems to me that the most effective tool is to insist that all members of congress and government must participate in exactly the same system that they apply to the American people. After all, if congress is going to make the rules and legislate about what can and cannot be done, then they should understand the system from within in order to make effective rules. Otherwise they would just be bureaucrats legislating on things of which they have no personal knowledge -- a major reason for the colossal failure of so many government programs.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Brooks</title>
		<link>http://keithhennessey.com/2009/04/21/slowing-health-cost-growth-requires-information-and-incentives/comment-page-1/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orszag claims that &quot;the Administration is making historic investments through the Recovery Act in efforts that will be crucial in bending the curve on the growth of health care costs while improving the health outcomes&quot;.

Translation: Win-win. No sacrifice. All gain, no pain.

Yes, we should invest where appropriate in better use of information (for both outcomes and cost containment), and yes, as Keith points out, incentives are an important element, too, but what is missing in the hyperpartisan talking points of those who imply that we just need win-win healthcare &quot;reform&quot; and the huge problem of the long-term fiscal impact of projected Medicare and Medicaid will mostly go away is that even with whatever net savings are produced via better use of information, more preventive care, universal coverage (perhaps single payer), etc., we will still (I strongly suspect) need to reduce entitlement eligibility and/or benefits to get our fiscal house in order. That means options like fairly broad means testing for Medicare and Social Security, higher retirement age, and reduced benefit levels vs. current law.

We need to reduce the influence of hyperpartisans who mislead the public or...

Get the hyperpartisans on the left to admit the necessity of actual sacrifice on entitlements or (if they can) produce credible analyses showing how we can adequately reduce our long-term fiscal imbalance without such measures.

Get the hyperpartisans on the right to either admit that we will need to raise tax revenues in terms of rates (and/or new categories of taxation) and as a percent of GDP or at least lay out with appropriate specificity how much less they would spend to adequately reduce our fiscal imbalance without any increase in taxation.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;287&#039;,&#039;Brooks&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;287&#039;,&#039;Brooks&#039;,&#039;Orszag claims that \&quot;the Administration is making historic investments through the Recovery Act in efforts that will be crucial in bending the curve on the growth of health care costs while improving the health outcomes\&quot;.\n\nTranslation: Win-win. No sacrifice. All gain, no pain.\n\nYes, we should invest where appropriate in better use of information (for both outcomes and cost containment), and yes, as Keith points out, incentives are an important element, too, but what is missing in the hyperpartisan talking points of those who imply that we just need win-win healthcare \&quot;reform\&quot; and the huge problem of the long-term fiscal impact of projected Medicare and Medicaid will mostly go away is that even with whatever net savings are produced via better use of information, more preventive care, universal coverage (perhaps single payer), etc., we will still (I strongly suspect) need to reduce entitlement eligibility and\/or benefits to get our fiscal house in order. That means options like fairly broad means testing for Medicare and Social Security, higher retirement age, and reduced benefit levels vs. current law.\n\nWe need to reduce the influence of hyperpartisans who mislead the public or...\n\nGet the hyperpartisans on the left to admit the necessity of actual sacrifice on entitlements or (if they can) produce credible analyses showing how we can adequately reduce our long-term fiscal imbalance without such measures.\n\nGet the hyperpartisans on the right to either admit that we will need to raise tax revenues in terms of rates (and\/or new categories of taxation) and as a percent of GDP or at least lay out with appropriate specificity how much less they would spend to adequately reduce our fiscal imbalance without any increase in taxation.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orszag claims that &#8220;the Administration is making historic investments through the Recovery Act in efforts that will be crucial in bending the curve on the growth of health care costs while improving the health outcomes&#8221;.</p>
<p>Translation: Win-win. No sacrifice. All gain, no pain.</p>
<p>Yes, we should invest where appropriate in better use of information (for both outcomes and cost containment), and yes, as Keith points out, incentives are an important element, too, but what is missing in the hyperpartisan talking points of those who imply that we just need win-win healthcare &#8220;reform&#8221; and the huge problem of the long-term fiscal impact of projected Medicare and Medicaid will mostly go away is that even with whatever net savings are produced via better use of information, more preventive care, universal coverage (perhaps single payer), etc., we will still (I strongly suspect) need to reduce entitlement eligibility and/or benefits to get our fiscal house in order. That means options like fairly broad means testing for Medicare and Social Security, higher retirement age, and reduced benefit levels vs. current law.</p>
<p>We need to reduce the influence of hyperpartisans who mislead the public or&#8230;</p>
<p>Get the hyperpartisans on the left to admit the necessity of actual sacrifice on entitlements or (if they can) produce credible analyses showing how we can adequately reduce our long-term fiscal imbalance without such measures.</p>
<p>Get the hyperpartisans on the right to either admit that we will need to raise tax revenues in terms of rates (and/or new categories of taxation) and as a percent of GDP or at least lay out with appropriate specificity how much less they would spend to adequately reduce our fiscal imbalance without any increase in taxation.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('287','Brooks'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('287','Brooks','Orszag claims that \&quot;the Administration is making historic investments through the Recovery Act in efforts that will be crucial in bending the curve on the growth of health care costs while improving the health outcomes\&quot;.\n\nTranslation: Win-win. No sacrifice. All gain, no pain.\n\nYes, we should invest where appropriate in better use of information (for both outcomes and cost containment), and yes, as Keith points out, incentives are an important element, too, but what is missing in the hyperpartisan talking points of those who imply that we just need win-win healthcare \&quot;reform\&quot; and the huge problem of the long-term fiscal impact of projected Medicare and Medicaid will mostly go away is that even with whatever net savings are produced via better use of information, more preventive care, universal coverage (perhaps single payer), etc., we will still (I strongly suspect) need to reduce entitlement eligibility and\/or benefits to get our fiscal house in order. That means options like fairly broad means testing for Medicare and Social Security, higher retirement age, and reduced benefit levels vs. current law.\n\nWe need to reduce the influence of hyperpartisans who mislead the public or...\n\nGet the hyperpartisans on the left to admit the necessity of actual sacrifice on entitlements or (if they can) produce credible analyses showing how we can adequately reduce our long-term fiscal imbalance without such measures.\n\nGet the hyperpartisans on the right to either admit that we will need to raise tax revenues in terms of rates (and\/or new categories of taxation) and as a percent of GDP or at least lay out with appropriate specificity how much less they would spend to adequately reduce our fiscal imbalance without any increase in taxation.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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